Post by Soup on Feb 17, 2021 16:21:38 GMT -5
So I wanted to try something a little different for a roundtable. Still some sim league talk, but a chance to have some fun with OT talk as well. We've all seen the meme below. I asked 3 other GMs to join me and answer some questions based on the tables I set up below. Thanks to Tim, Druce and 20s for participating. Hopefully you guys like it.
1. The 3001 TMBSL champion is sitting at what table, and who is it?
I don’t really see a table with two strong contenders. The Grizzlies, Clippers, Mavs, and Raptors are all at tables without another contender. The Bobcats belong in the top tier and the Bullets are the best second-best team that I see out of that group, so I guess I’ll pick table 6. I don’t feel great about it though.
I think it’s table 9, and it’s clearly dirt, because we know bk will never win in a full league, and Tim doesn’t have LeBron yet.
I’m going with table 9 and the Clippers. In my preseason predictions, I took the Bobcats over the Mavs, but I like how the Clippers are playing recently so for this article, I am going with them.
I think ultimately here you try to improve your odds and find a table with two teams that have a good to decent shot at winning a title. I’m at a little bit of an advantage here and know about a handshake deal that’s going to take place on day 60. Give me table 8 even though there’s only two teams at the table. Skrouse has performed poorly to this point, but the fracs are still there. Heebs is one piece away from being a serious contender, and if my sources are correct, he has that deal in place.
2. Looking 20 years into the future, which table has the most TMBSL titles?
Table 9. 20 years from now I’ll probably have about 12 titles, Dirt might have one, and BK might have one. Even with just my 12, we’ll easily eclipse every other table combined.
So lets start with the tables I think have GMs with the skill to do it: 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 so 2 and 4 are out. Now which tables have multiple GMs capable: 1, 3, 6, 7, 9. So which group of 2 is strongest: For me it’s between 6 and 9 (!) with a nod to 9. I think Dirt and Tim are both very good GMs who understand the software, Tim knows how eric builds players, and Dirt has a very good team already.
I’m going with table 9 here too as I see dirt and TimPig as both threats to have multiple titles by that point. Looking through the other tables, it was hard to find one where I thought two GMs would have multiple titles by that point. Table 7 is a sleeper as I believe trofie, JHB, and Ian are all GMs capable of winning a title, but I’m not sure I see any of them building a dynasty that wins a high volume of championships. I also considered table 1 with druce and bankz’s budding dynasty.
I’m torn between table 1 and table 9 here. I think short term, Druce has a very good shot at pulling out a couple of titles in the next 5 seasons. Then you have Bankz, whose team full of is already performing at a very high level. That team could be scary good for the next 10 seasons. Sap seems active enough and willing to pick people’s brains on how things run. He’s better than most table’s 3rd GM slot.
3. Which table is the first to have their original GMs leave the league?
Table 4. Fecta and Tyler both seem to be on really thin ice. And I feel like BA was locked out of the house by those two but is in the process of trying to pick the lock on the door or sneak in through a window.
This is a 2 horse race between 4 and 2. I think Troy and Andrew will stay longer than tyler and ba, fecta and duc are wild cards. I feel like duc will leave before fecta but who knows. Ultimately I think 4 will be gone first.
Table 4 no doubt. Fecta and ba are both guys people have already speculated about leaving and you never know how long tyler is gonna be around. I feel very confident in this answer. Every other table has at least one GM that it is hard to see leaving.
Table 4 may be the obvious choice, but I feel they all do enough to stick around for at least a few more seasons. I’ve decided on table 10. Irush is in a fragile state right now. Between his abysmal team situation and his third world living conditions, I’m not sure how much the poor lad can take.
4. If you could pull a player or asset from each person at your table, who/what would it be and why? Do these moves make you a title contender?
Pulling Kyle Hines or Drazen Dalipagic boost me in the standings quite a bit, but unfortunately I probably also have to take Bootsy Thornton and that’s just not moving the needle much.
I will take 1.1 from sap and Dale Ellis from Bankz. 1.1 I’d use to get a point guard and Ellis slots in nicely in my starting lineup. Yes I think I’d win the title or at least be the odds on favorite.
Blazers – Ralph Sampson / Spurs – Rodney McCray
Yes, this would make me a title contender because McCray would give me an upgrade at SF which I need. I’d have even more of a glut of bigs by adding Sampson, but oh well. Wish I was at a table with an elite PG, though.
What a shit sandwich of players to choose from between the Kings and Bulls. I think I would take Bulls 4th pick in 3003 and Kings 5th pick in 3002. I believe I could very easily turn those into a superstar player and greatly improve my chances of winning a title this season since my team is already a title contender.
5. Combining rosters, which table would produce the best team? What would that starting lineup be?
I think I’m going to go off the board here a bit and pick Table 5. You get a really good backcourt from Toronto, the best scorer in the league in Bojan, and another stud in Meeks. The starting lineup is:
C - Bojan Dubljevic
PF - Kennedy Meeks
SF - Da’Sean Butler
SG - Luke Recker
PG - Sergei Belov
I think table 6 would be best combined. Taylor/Estes/Gathers/Blackmon/Mitchell with Neitzel, James, Ball, Buford off the bench
I think it comes down to tables 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10.
1 – 76ers Grizzlies combo – both squads currently have the best records in their conferences
5 – Raptors + Bojan + Meeks + Breshers + DD
6 – Bobcats + Gathers is dangerous, but they still lack elite bigs (this is probably the table if the Bullets don’t lose Sharrar)
8 – Staten, Cota, Schmidt, Drexler, Wrenn, Peppers, lot of good players but lacking elite bigs
9 – Basically the Clippers, throw Noah Dickerson in there and maybe Bootsy off the bench
10 – Mavs by themselves make this table a contender, but not much too add from the Kings or Bulls
Final answer is Table 5.
Starting Lineup:
C – Bojan
PF – Kennedy Meeks
SF – Dasean Butler
SG – Luke Recker
PG – Sergei Belov
I think table 1 could have an interesting squad. A lot of talent between the Grizzlies and Sixers to choose from, but ultimately, they’re a PG short of being considered elite. After that tables 5 and 6 could probably put together the best teams on paper. As much fun as it would be to surround Bojan with Raptors and Chaparrals players, I’m going to go the small ball line up of table 6.
C – Jimmie Taylor
PF – Wayne Estes
SF – Hank Gathers
SG – William Buford
PG – Demetrius Mitchell
6. All tables but your own. Max one, MLE one, cut one, go!
Max first, MLE second, Cut third:
Table 1 - Druce, Sap, Bankz
Table 2 - AndrewLuck, TroyBarnes, Duc
Table 3 - 20s, Majic, Pointyegg
Table 4 - Fecta, BA, Twind
Table 5 - Delap, Ankly, DaChap
Table 6 - Ward, Odin, Yawn
Table 7 - JHB, Ian, Trofie
Table 8 - Eric, Skrouse, Heebs
Table 9 - TimPig, JZ, Dirt
Table 10 - Soup, irush, Mike
Max: Duc, Majic, fecta?, ank, ward, trofie, heebs, tim, soup
MLE: Luck, 20s, ba?, delap, odin, jhb, eric, dirt, mike
Cut: Barnes, egg, tyler, chaps, yawn, boyd, skrouse, bk, irush
A few difficult cuts there.
Table 1: Max druce, MLE bankz, cut sap
Table 2: Max duc, MLE drew, cut troy
Table 4: Max fecta, MLE tyler, cut BA
Table 5: Max ank, MLE delap, cut Chap
Table 6: Max ward, MLE yawn, cut odin (this was hard)
Table 7: Max trofie, MLE JHB, cut Ian
Table 8: Max eric, MLE heebs, cut skrouse
Table 9: Max Tim, MLE dirt, cut BK
Table 10: Max soup, MLE irush, cut Mike
1: Max bankz, MLE druce, cut sap
2: Max duc, MLE drew, cut troy
3: Max 20s, MLE majic, cut pointy
4: Max BA, MLE tyler, cut fecta
5: Max delap, MLE Chap, cut Ank
6: Max ward, MLE Odin, cut Yawn
7: Max trofie, MLE JHB, cut Ian (I’d hate to lose any of these 3)
8: Max eric, MLE heebs, cut skrouse (Same as above)
9: Max dirt, MLE tim, cut BK (Just so BK could prepare to commish…
7. In a sentence or two, what conversation is taking place at each table?
Table 1 - Druce is trying to explain the rules to Sapular, but they can’t hear each other over Bankz shouting across the room to table 10, asking Soup if he’s allowed to start eating yet and if he can pee standing up during his next potty break.
Table 2 - Absolute silence. In fact, no one is there. None of the GMs showed up.
Table 3 - 20s is asking two former 5.0 GMs about some of the rules but their answers don’t make any sense. He checks the Rules thread and verifies that they were both indeed wrong.
Table 4 - It’s kind of like Table 2. BA just grabbed his lunch from the cafeteria counter, went to Table 2, and saw Fecta and Tyler sitting there. “Is this Table 2?” he asks, to no response.
Table 5 - DaChap, after smoking four marijuanas, is starting to buy into the concept of the Mormon God that Delap is preaching. Ank refuses to buy what Delap is selling because he sees no reason to worship a God with an unverified vertical jump.
Table 6 - Odin, searching for something to be upset about, complains about the lack of keto options available at the cafeteria. Yawn, sensing an opportunity to pound the table and scream backs Odin. Ward explains that there are, in fact, keto options available, at which point Odin denies ever complaining about the lack of keto options.
Table 7 - Drunken Trofie and ‘roid-raging JHB are taking turns beating up on Ian. Through his broken jaw, Ian, barely intelligible, says “This is almost as bad as the beatdown the 2.0 Stephon Marbury Celtics gave to Howard Eisley’s Magic in the Conference Semi-Finals.”
Table 8 - It’s a table with Eric and Heebs - what do you think is going on? Eric is eating mustard rice for the 319th day in a row. It’s the same amount of time that Heebs has gone on a hunger strike in an effort to prove to Eric that you, in fact, do NOT need to participate in the human act of ingestion in order to live but is too stubborn to actually succumb to starvation. Skrouse isn’t participating in the pissing match because he’s standing over Eric, intently waiting for Eric to finish his mustard rice so that he can wipe Eric’s face and his place setting.
Table 9 - Dirt is working the phones, trying to upgrade from the sandwich in front of him to the deep-fried wings he sees on BK’s tray. It was initially a straight-up one-for-one proposed by BK, but Dirt accepted which caused BK to request that Dirt also include his bag of chips. Dirt wants at least half of his bag of chips, so he has a 7-part trade worked out that will allow him to net some of Tim’s almonds that he can use in the final exchange for the wings. Nothing ends up getting done but we all hate each other afterwards.
Table 10 - With two GMs crippled by the weather conditions and one crippled by his country’s economy, this table is struggling for survival. There isn’t much conversation as each individual is keeping one eye on the others at his table and the other on the shiv that he’s fashioning out of his cafeteria utensils.
1. I imagine Sap would be picking Bankz’ brain about running a restaurant.
2. All 3 GMs didn’t show up to school that day so no convo at all.
3. Majic asking for advice from 20s about being a dad and pointy still drunk from the night before making sure he bulk orders trojans from amazon.
4. Tyler and Ba fighting over the animal products in fecta’s lunch.
5. Ank and Delap discussing Alex Trebek’s replacement while Chap chimes in with gangster rappers as suggestions and them rolling their eyes.
6. Yawn is drunk, Odin is high, Ward is enjoying Yawn babbling while Odin tries unsuccessfully to get him to shut up.
7. Trofie and JHB having a convo while Boyd interrupts with a “well actually….” And they both douse him with milk cartons.
8. Heebs and eric arguing while Skrouse cleans his nose from the last time someone went at eric.
9. BK making terrible jokes that dirt and Tim scoff at until they settle on a topic they all enjoy.
10. Mike and Irush speaking about hair care products until Soup starts asking Irush how much he benches just to change the conversation.
1 – I don’t think poop knives would be sanitary to have around the pizza kitchen.
2 – Alabama gonna win it all again this year, ROLL TIDE!
3 – So how far can you throw a football, pointy?
4 - *silence*
5 – In my opinion, there just isn’t enough ambiguity in Malibu’s Most Wanted.
6 – College football, video games, and smoking cigs.
7 - SHUT THE FUCK UP, IAN!
8 – What is the greatest game of all time and why it is Gemstone IV?
9 – Some bullshit about how BK is being persecuted against and why he is actually better than anyone gives him credit for. And 5.0 vs non-5.0 arguments aplenty.
10 – Music, breakfast burritos, and maybe even a little discussion in Spanish? Unsure about if soup or irush speak at all.
Table 1 – Bankz and Druce are arguing back and forth about the value of items and what people are willing to pay while Sap sits quietly at his seat cutting tootsie roll bars in anticipation for the post lunch poo.
Table 2 – AndrewLuck left lunch early because he couldn’t stand being around such a toxic lunchroom. Troy Barnes also hasn’t shown. He recently switched from A to B lunch and forgot to update his schedule. Duc sits quietly drawing up football plays in his journal.
Table 3 – Majic spends all lunch talking about all the great things on his team as 20s meets every point with a counterpoint on why he sucks. Pointy watches idly by chirping in every couple of minutes to see if either of them need to shed some contracts. Pointy ends lunch with an additional 40 mil in contracts and 2k skrouse coin to show for it.
Table 4 – Fecta sits on his phone tweeting while Tyler and BA have fallen asleep on the table from long days/nights at work the previous day. Tyler wakes up ever so often to yell out, “Brain Winter” before falling back asleep.
Table 5 – Ank and Delap, two members of the Quiz Team, fire off questions back and forth preparing for their next competition. Chap starts a beat on the table and begins to freestyle about all the players he’s going to max this offseason.
Table 6 – Odin dominates the conversation talking about Nate Oats and Bama basketball. Neither Yawn or Ward are able to get a word in until Yawn slides an edible Odin’s way.
Table 7 – Trofie and JHB are talking trades as potential partners while Ian Boyd rambles on about wingstop and the good ol’ days of 2.0.
Table 8 – Eric doesn’t say much. Sits there enjoying his mustard and rice while having a Kina coffee date in his air pods. In protest, Heebs has decided not to say anything until he is acknowledged by eric. Skrouse just randomly blurts out defenses of eric that no one really initiated and is rewarded a treat every time he does so.
Table 9 – Dirt and BK go back and forth one upping each other on who laid the best dick the previous weekend. Tim sits back and emotes with his face reactions only.
Table 10 – Irush is in ruins over his current climate in south Texas. Mike tells him to man up and explains to him what real hardships are living in Argentina. Soup spends all lunch trying to listen in on table 9’s weekend stories.
8. If there was a fire and you had to sacrifice one table to get out alive, which table would it be?
Table 1, of course. Does there have to be a fire in this scenario, or can I sacrifice them just because? Sorry that Druce and Sap have to get caught in the middle. From another perspective, with 2 out of 3 GMs at Table 10 being Texas residents, they might ask to be surrounded by fire based on the current state of things.
Well the hottest table is already table 2 with the Suns and Heat so let’s go with them. None of them are particularly active which makes the decision easier.
It would be table 4 because they are the least active shouters. Sorry, fecta, tyler, and ba. I would miss you guys.
Like the dudes at this table, but bye bye table 9. Clippers are my biggest western conference hurdle to making the finals again, so let’s go ahead and eliminate them without a single game being played. BK can still trade Bootsy to Dirt in hell so there should be no love lost.
9. Other than your own, if you had to live together in a house for a full year with one of the tables, who would it be?
I was pretty torn between tables 8 and 10 for this question, but I think I’m going to go with table 10. I like everyone at table 8, but I’m sure that Eric would have issues if I kept produce or frozen meat in the house, so we’d bicker a lot over that and I don’t think it’d end well. Heebs would keep asking me to go rock climbing even after being denied 300 times. Skrouse’s tragic addiction to marijuana would surely take a toll on my mental health as I watched him wither and lose everything he ever cared about.
On the other hand, I think I’d have a good thing going with table 10. I like Soup and think we’d get along pretty well. Same goes for Mike. He could teach me Spanish and probably some good Argentinian food. Me and irush could go to the gym together (after getting vaccinated obvi).
Going to use process of elimination on this one as well. Can’t choose 1, just said I’d sacrifice 2 so who knows if I make it out alive from that one. 3 I know all 3 of these guys so good option there, that said sometimes spending more than a week with Majic makes me want to end it. Hard pass on living w/vegan fecta and two dudes who I’ve never had a conversation with. 5 would be fine I guess. 6 and 8 would be pretty calm groups right around the same as 5 I think. 7 would be fun with trofie and jhb, then you’ve got Boyd in there to drag down the whole group. 9 is an interesting mix that I don’t think would gel as roommates. 10 is also a unique mix with the DJ, the gym hardo and Soup. Ultimately choosing between 3 and 7 and I think I’m going with 3 as I know we all have common interests and generally meshable personalities.
Here, I considered tables 7, 8, 9, and 10 the closest. I think BK would drive me insane so I eliminated 9. Some of eric’s idiosyncrasies would probably be too much to deal with so I am down to table 7 and table 10. I think I’ll go with 10. Soup, irush, and Mike are all good dudes and Mike could spin some jams for us while we party.
I was about to pick table 1, but Druce and Bankz are currently going at it. That plus the threat of shitty knives being left out everywhere, that’s enough to make me pass. Table 9 would be awesome but BK is a wildcard. Maybe we could get a two story and fill the bottom floor with water and he could stay to that area of the house. Ultimately there’s only one table where I think I wouldn’t get annoyed by any of the GMs, and that’s table 3. I feel I have a very similar personality to 20s and Pointy from my interactions seems like a great dude. Majic has the outside shot of getting annoying, but since I’m not the commish, he wouldn’t be asking me every day when sim would be, so we should be in the clear there.
10. General trivia night at the bar. Which table is walking away the winner?
Table 5. I heard Delap made it on Jeopardy! once, Ank strikes me as a good trivia guy, and Chap's street smarts and knowledge of recreational drugs are unmatched.
Between Ank and Delap I think table 5 takes it. Delap was on jeopardy for crying out loud.
I am taking table 5 here. Delap the Jeopardy king and ank also brings a vast knowledge of trivia. Chap could help the group out when it comes to gangster movies and hip hop. I think they win easily as long as there aren’t any questions about Hal Holbrook (RIP in peace). Table 8 was the runner up, I think they would also be very strong at trivia night.
The obvious choice here is table 5, but I can envision a scenario where ank would sabotage his own team because he isn’t the smartest person on his team. Also, if that team made it to the end it’s entirely possible they would choke it all away on the final answer. I think that leads to a Skrouse, Heebs, Eric victory. 3 guys that seem like they could hold their own in a wide array of general knowledge.
11. Which table leads to the first punch being thrown?
Table 7. I think I remember seeing in Shout that Trofie is one of those guys who likes to wrestle when he’s drunk. Then there’s Ian, who nobody doesn’t want to punch.
I think 9. Between Dirt and Tim I think they’d to at each other, or maybe 7 with JHB or Trofie going after Boyd, that one might be even more likely.
I think it’s definitely table 9. The BK factor is just too strong. Table 1 is a sleeper.
After these last few days I don’t know how it’s not table 1. Neither Druce or Bankz individually seem like they would be quick to come to blows, but something about the make up of the chemistry between these two individuals. Sap seems like a no nonsense kind of guy too. I could see him just getting tired of the altercations and either punching someone or stabbing someone with his poop knife.
12. You have a sister, and she must marry a GM from a specific table, RNG style. Which table are you picking?
Tables 3, 8, and 10 are all options. Everyone at Table 3 seems like a respectful fellow and I don’t think I’d need to worry about any of them hurting her. Three smart, successful guys at Table 8. Table 10, again, three respectful guys who I get along with well. I think I have to go with Table 8 though. Heebs is rich and Skrouse just got a huge raise, so there’s a ⅔ chance that my sister ends up marrying into wealth and I can take advantage of that.
Going with table 8. I know Heebs and Skrouse are both good dads, and eric I’m sure would care for a family with everything they need aside from affection. If it were someone else’s sister *cough 20s cough* I’d pick my table. All dads to seemingly great kids, all married so you know at least 1 woman likes us enough.
Well, table 3 is definitely out because we can’t risk that RNG selects me. Table 9 would again be a good pick except I cannot risk that BK is selected. I think I’d have to go with table 1 here. They all are family men and seem like they have their lives under control.
Table 10. If anyone is going to be fucking my sister, it’s gonna be me! Just kidding, my top two choices from a table would be Tim and Dirt. I know Dirt is, but Tim also seems like a good dude who would treat his lady with respect. There seems like there would be a drawback to every table, so I think I might leave my sister’s life to the RNG gods of that table and just pray it doesn’t end up on BK. It’s more than what she’d do for me.
13. Which table is pulling the varsity cheerleaders?
Table 9, without question. It’s already been done. I don’t know much about Dirt, but BK could brag about his exploits at army and maybe he’ll even get a uniform of some sort eventually. Women love uniforms.
Table 10. You’ve got the foreign DJ and the gym rat. Soup would be happy with even the scraps from that combo. Mike dropping “you ever been to Bs As” while Irush is doing some kettle bell bullshit would have the lunch lady needing to mop under their table.
This is definitely table 9. You combine dirt’s charm with Tim’s athletic prowess and dreamy bod and then on top of everything throw in BK’s elite fucking ability and ForHims.com stash and it’s game over. Table 10 would also do well with irush’s bod, Mike’s charm and good looks, and soup’s charisma and smooth talking.
Bitches like drama. Table 9 and table 1 are the two obvious choices here. Dirt likes ‘em young so they’ve probably got the JV cheerleaders at their corner of the lunchroom. Those chicks usually put out quicker anyways since they don’t know any better yet. So I guess that leaves the varsity squad at table 1.
14. Which table wins a 3 on 3 basketball tournament?
This one is tough, but it might be Table 10 again. Soup’s got pretty good height down low. I’ve seen Mike’s soccer videos and he’s lightning quick. And irush goes to the gym so he can at least run up and down the court.
Process of elimination brings me to 6 vs. 10. You’ve got the two tallest guys in the league going at it for the title. Ultimately, I think Soup has more experience actually playing basketball so I’ll go 10.
I’m going to go with table 5 here because I know that ank and delap have both been active players very recently. Chap seems young enough and in tune with the urban culture enough to at least not be a total waste as a 3rd. Table 10 probably 2nd. Tables 6 and 7 also would be in contention. That is probably my final 4.
In my prime this is an easy choice but that was too long ago, and I’m a broken former shadow of myself. Dirt was a great PG in his day, and Tim is long and athletic, but I don’t know much about Bk’s athletic prowess. It seems like table 6 would have the biggest advantage with 8 foot 11 Odin, but from all accounts he likes to just stand on the 3-point line jacking up shots all day. Other than that, I really don’t know much about anyone else’s game on the court. Delap from what I’ve seen in the past seems to be anin shape individual as well as ank. They’re probably in shape enough to be well above average in these pool of players. And in Chap who could give that Rodman/Oakley type presence, I think we have ourselves a tournament winner at table 5.
15. If you could ban one table from shout for a week who would you choose?
Can I ban all of them? As TMBSL’s resident snowflake and safe space advocate, I think this lunchroom would be a much better place if only I was allowed to participate.
I think we have a very entertaining group that participates in shout, so I’d bad table 4 since they don’t participate anyways.
Table 9. Sorry to the collateral damage. Table 1 runner up.
I don’t mind the drama. Keeps me young so I’m keeping table 1 and table 9 at all costs. Neither GM of table 4 shouts much at all so that’s the easy choice for me. Fuck ‘em.
16. Which table would be the last survivors of a zombie apocalypse?
Table 10 because they’re the only ones with a willing human shield in Bankz. Table 8 is in an unfortunate situation because while Skrouse would sacrifice himself to protect Eric, he’s already at Eric’s table.
This one has me wondering who has the largest stockpile of weapons. I knock out 8 immediately unless eric has some inspector gadget like features with machine guns etc. I think 1,3,4,5,6 likely don’t have much if any gun ownership between them so they’re out as well. Simply living in Alabama leads me to Luck and Barnes having a weapon or two between them with Duc being a wild card because Oregon is quite outdoorsy. Trofie may have enough for JHB and Boyd to have 2 each of his. Soup is a native Texan so we know he’s got an arsenal. Irush likes arsenal, but is a Texas transplant, and Mike is used to being resourceful and doing what he needs to do to get by so I’m going to go with table 10.
I’m going to go with table 8 here because they seem like they would be pretty resourceful. Eric could survive on rice for months. Table 4 was my second thought because they all are basically dead to the league, anyway so maybe the zombies would leave them alone.
I’m old and slow and I hear zombies like the latin flavored meat so we’re probably the first table to go. We have a hard time finding tables 2 and 4, so perhaps the zombies would as well. Tables 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9 all seem to have a GM that they wouldn’t mind sacrificing if it came down to it leading to a longer survivability time. Ultimately the brainpower of Ank and Delap plus Delap probably having the gate code to some Mormon ark tucked away at the base of the Rockies in Salt Lake City leaves them the last table remaining.
Where you sitting?
1. The 3001 TMBSL champion is sitting at what table, and who is it?
I don’t really see a table with two strong contenders. The Grizzlies, Clippers, Mavs, and Raptors are all at tables without another contender. The Bobcats belong in the top tier and the Bullets are the best second-best team that I see out of that group, so I guess I’ll pick table 6. I don’t feel great about it though.I think it’s table 9, and it’s clearly dirt, because we know bk will never win in a full league, and Tim doesn’t have LeBron yet.I’m going with table 9 and the Clippers. In my preseason predictions, I took the Bobcats over the Mavs, but I like how the Clippers are playing recently so for this article, I am going with them.I think ultimately here you try to improve your odds and find a table with two teams that have a good to decent shot at winning a title. I’m at a little bit of an advantage here and know about a handshake deal that’s going to take place on day 60. Give me table 8 even though there’s only two teams at the table. Skrouse has performed poorly to this point, but the fracs are still there. Heebs is one piece away from being a serious contender, and if my sources are correct, he has that deal in place.2. Looking 20 years into the future, which table has the most TMBSL titles?
Table 9. 20 years from now I’ll probably have about 12 titles, Dirt might have one, and BK might have one. Even with just my 12, we’ll easily eclipse every other table combined. So lets start with the tables I think have GMs with the skill to do it: 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 so 2 and 4 are out. Now which tables have multiple GMs capable: 1, 3, 6, 7, 9. So which group of 2 is strongest: For me it’s between 6 and 9 (!) with a nod to 9. I think Dirt and Tim are both very good GMs who understand the software, Tim knows how eric builds players, and Dirt has a very good team already.I’m going with table 9 here too as I see dirt and TimPig as both threats to have multiple titles by that point. Looking through the other tables, it was hard to find one where I thought two GMs would have multiple titles by that point. Table 7 is a sleeper as I believe trofie, JHB, and Ian are all GMs capable of winning a title, but I’m not sure I see any of them building a dynasty that wins a high volume of championships. I also considered table 1 with druce and bankz’s budding dynasty.I’m torn between table 1 and table 9 here. I think short term, Druce has a very good shot at pulling out a couple of titles in the next 5 seasons. Then you have Bankz, whose team full of is already performing at a very high level. That team could be scary good for the next 10 seasons. Sap seems active enough and willing to pick people’s brains on how things run. He’s better than most table’s 3rd GM slot.3. Which table is the first to have their original GMs leave the league?
Table 4. Fecta and Tyler both seem to be on really thin ice. And I feel like BA was locked out of the house by those two but is in the process of trying to pick the lock on the door or sneak in through a window.This is a 2 horse race between 4 and 2. I think Troy and Andrew will stay longer than tyler and ba, fecta and duc are wild cards. I feel like duc will leave before fecta but who knows. Ultimately I think 4 will be gone first. Table 4 no doubt. Fecta and ba are both guys people have already speculated about leaving and you never know how long tyler is gonna be around. I feel very confident in this answer. Every other table has at least one GM that it is hard to see leaving. Table 4 may be the obvious choice, but I feel they all do enough to stick around for at least a few more seasons. I’ve decided on table 10. Irush is in a fragile state right now. Between his abysmal team situation and his third world living conditions, I’m not sure how much the poor lad can take.4. If you could pull a player or asset from each person at your table, who/what would it be and why? Do these moves make you a title contender?
Pulling Kyle Hines or Drazen Dalipagic boost me in the standings quite a bit, but unfortunately I probably also have to take Bootsy Thornton and that’s just not moving the needle much.I will take 1.1 from sap and Dale Ellis from Bankz. 1.1 I’d use to get a point guard and Ellis slots in nicely in my starting lineup. Yes I think I’d win the title or at least be the odds on favorite.Blazers – Ralph Sampson / Spurs – Rodney McCrayYes, this would make me a title contender because McCray would give me an upgrade at SF which I need. I’d have even more of a glut of bigs by adding Sampson, but oh well. Wish I was at a table with an elite PG, though.
What a shit sandwich of players to choose from between the Kings and Bulls. I think I would take Bulls 4th pick in 3003 and Kings 5th pick in 3002. I believe I could very easily turn those into a superstar player and greatly improve my chances of winning a title this season since my team is already a title contender.5. Combining rosters, which table would produce the best team? What would that starting lineup be?
I think I’m going to go off the board here a bit and pick Table 5. You get a really good backcourt from Toronto, the best scorer in the league in Bojan, and another stud in Meeks. The starting lineup is:C - Bojan Dubljevic
PF - Kennedy Meeks
SF - Da’Sean Butler
SG - Luke Recker
PG - Sergei Belov
I think table 6 would be best combined. Taylor/Estes/Gathers/Blackmon/Mitchell with Neitzel, James, Ball, Buford off the bench I think it comes down to tables 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10.1 – 76ers Grizzlies combo – both squads currently have the best records in their conferences
5 – Raptors + Bojan + Meeks + Breshers + DD
6 – Bobcats + Gathers is dangerous, but they still lack elite bigs (this is probably the table if the Bullets don’t lose Sharrar)
8 – Staten, Cota, Schmidt, Drexler, Wrenn, Peppers, lot of good players but lacking elite bigs
9 – Basically the Clippers, throw Noah Dickerson in there and maybe Bootsy off the bench
10 – Mavs by themselves make this table a contender, but not much too add from the Kings or Bulls
Final answer is Table 5.
Starting Lineup:
C – Bojan
PF – Kennedy Meeks
SF – Dasean Butler
SG – Luke Recker
PG – Sergei Belov
I think table 1 could have an interesting squad. A lot of talent between the Grizzlies and Sixers to choose from, but ultimately, they’re a PG short of being considered elite. After that tables 5 and 6 could probably put together the best teams on paper. As much fun as it would be to surround Bojan with Raptors and Chaparrals players, I’m going to go the small ball line up of table 6. C – Jimmie Taylor
PF – Wayne Estes
SF – Hank Gathers
SG – William Buford
PG – Demetrius Mitchell
6. All tables but your own. Max one, MLE one, cut one, go!
Max first, MLE second, Cut third:Table 1 - Druce, Sap, Bankz
Table 2 - AndrewLuck, TroyBarnes, Duc
Table 3 - 20s, Majic, Pointyegg
Table 4 - Fecta, BA, Twind
Table 5 - Delap, Ankly, DaChap
Table 6 - Ward, Odin, Yawn
Table 7 - JHB, Ian, Trofie
Table 8 - Eric, Skrouse, Heebs
Table 9 - TimPig, JZ, Dirt
Table 10 - Soup, irush, Mike
Max: Duc, Majic, fecta?, ank, ward, trofie, heebs, tim, soupMLE: Luck, 20s, ba?, delap, odin, jhb, eric, dirt, mike
Cut: Barnes, egg, tyler, chaps, yawn, boyd, skrouse, bk, irush
A few difficult cuts there.
Table 1: Max druce, MLE bankz, cut sap
Table 2: Max duc, MLE drew, cut troy
Table 4: Max fecta, MLE tyler, cut BA
Table 5: Max ank, MLE delap, cut Chap
Table 6: Max ward, MLE yawn, cut odin (this was hard)
Table 7: Max trofie, MLE JHB, cut Ian
Table 8: Max eric, MLE heebs, cut skrouse
Table 9: Max Tim, MLE dirt, cut BK
Table 10: Max soup, MLE irush, cut Mike
1: Max bankz, MLE druce, cut sap
2: Max duc, MLE drew, cut troy
3: Max 20s, MLE majic, cut pointy
4: Max BA, MLE tyler, cut fecta
5: Max delap, MLE Chap, cut Ank
6: Max ward, MLE Odin, cut Yawn
7: Max trofie, MLE JHB, cut Ian (I’d hate to lose any of these 3)
8: Max eric, MLE heebs, cut skrouse (Same as above)
9: Max dirt, MLE tim, cut BK (Just so BK could prepare to commish…
7. In a sentence or two, what conversation is taking place at each table?
Table 1 - Druce is trying to explain the rules to Sapular, but they can’t hear each other over Bankz shouting across the room to table 10, asking Soup if he’s allowed to start eating yet and if he can pee standing up during his next potty break.Table 2 - Absolute silence. In fact, no one is there. None of the GMs showed up.
Table 3 - 20s is asking two former 5.0 GMs about some of the rules but their answers don’t make any sense. He checks the Rules thread and verifies that they were both indeed wrong.
Table 4 - It’s kind of like Table 2. BA just grabbed his lunch from the cafeteria counter, went to Table 2, and saw Fecta and Tyler sitting there. “Is this Table 2?” he asks, to no response.
Table 5 - DaChap, after smoking four marijuanas, is starting to buy into the concept of the Mormon God that Delap is preaching. Ank refuses to buy what Delap is selling because he sees no reason to worship a God with an unverified vertical jump.
Table 6 - Odin, searching for something to be upset about, complains about the lack of keto options available at the cafeteria. Yawn, sensing an opportunity to pound the table and scream backs Odin. Ward explains that there are, in fact, keto options available, at which point Odin denies ever complaining about the lack of keto options.
Table 7 - Drunken Trofie and ‘roid-raging JHB are taking turns beating up on Ian. Through his broken jaw, Ian, barely intelligible, says “This is almost as bad as the beatdown the 2.0 Stephon Marbury Celtics gave to Howard Eisley’s Magic in the Conference Semi-Finals.”
Table 8 - It’s a table with Eric and Heebs - what do you think is going on? Eric is eating mustard rice for the 319th day in a row. It’s the same amount of time that Heebs has gone on a hunger strike in an effort to prove to Eric that you, in fact, do NOT need to participate in the human act of ingestion in order to live but is too stubborn to actually succumb to starvation. Skrouse isn’t participating in the pissing match because he’s standing over Eric, intently waiting for Eric to finish his mustard rice so that he can wipe Eric’s face and his place setting.
Table 9 - Dirt is working the phones, trying to upgrade from the sandwich in front of him to the deep-fried wings he sees on BK’s tray. It was initially a straight-up one-for-one proposed by BK, but Dirt accepted which caused BK to request that Dirt also include his bag of chips. Dirt wants at least half of his bag of chips, so he has a 7-part trade worked out that will allow him to net some of Tim’s almonds that he can use in the final exchange for the wings. Nothing ends up getting done but we all hate each other afterwards.
Table 10 - With two GMs crippled by the weather conditions and one crippled by his country’s economy, this table is struggling for survival. There isn’t much conversation as each individual is keeping one eye on the others at his table and the other on the shiv that he’s fashioning out of his cafeteria utensils.
1. I imagine Sap would be picking Bankz’ brain about running a restaurant.2. All 3 GMs didn’t show up to school that day so no convo at all.
3. Majic asking for advice from 20s about being a dad and pointy still drunk from the night before making sure he bulk orders trojans from amazon.
4. Tyler and Ba fighting over the animal products in fecta’s lunch.
5. Ank and Delap discussing Alex Trebek’s replacement while Chap chimes in with gangster rappers as suggestions and them rolling their eyes.
6. Yawn is drunk, Odin is high, Ward is enjoying Yawn babbling while Odin tries unsuccessfully to get him to shut up.
7. Trofie and JHB having a convo while Boyd interrupts with a “well actually….” And they both douse him with milk cartons.
8. Heebs and eric arguing while Skrouse cleans his nose from the last time someone went at eric.
9. BK making terrible jokes that dirt and Tim scoff at until they settle on a topic they all enjoy.
10. Mike and Irush speaking about hair care products until Soup starts asking Irush how much he benches just to change the conversation.
1 – I don’t think poop knives would be sanitary to have around the pizza kitchen.2 – Alabama gonna win it all again this year, ROLL TIDE!
3 – So how far can you throw a football, pointy?
4 - *silence*
5 – In my opinion, there just isn’t enough ambiguity in Malibu’s Most Wanted.
6 – College football, video games, and smoking cigs.
7 - SHUT THE FUCK UP, IAN!
8 – What is the greatest game of all time and why it is Gemstone IV?
9 – Some bullshit about how BK is being persecuted against and why he is actually better than anyone gives him credit for. And 5.0 vs non-5.0 arguments aplenty.
10 – Music, breakfast burritos, and maybe even a little discussion in Spanish? Unsure about if soup or irush speak at all.
Table 1 – Bankz and Druce are arguing back and forth about the value of items and what people are willing to pay while Sap sits quietly at his seat cutting tootsie roll bars in anticipation for the post lunch poo.
Table 2 – AndrewLuck left lunch early because he couldn’t stand being around such a toxic lunchroom. Troy Barnes also hasn’t shown. He recently switched from A to B lunch and forgot to update his schedule. Duc sits quietly drawing up football plays in his journal.
Table 3 – Majic spends all lunch talking about all the great things on his team as 20s meets every point with a counterpoint on why he sucks. Pointy watches idly by chirping in every couple of minutes to see if either of them need to shed some contracts. Pointy ends lunch with an additional 40 mil in contracts and 2k skrouse coin to show for it.
Table 4 – Fecta sits on his phone tweeting while Tyler and BA have fallen asleep on the table from long days/nights at work the previous day. Tyler wakes up ever so often to yell out, “Brain Winter” before falling back asleep.
Table 5 – Ank and Delap, two members of the Quiz Team, fire off questions back and forth preparing for their next competition. Chap starts a beat on the table and begins to freestyle about all the players he’s going to max this offseason.
Table 6 – Odin dominates the conversation talking about Nate Oats and Bama basketball. Neither Yawn or Ward are able to get a word in until Yawn slides an edible Odin’s way.
Table 7 – Trofie and JHB are talking trades as potential partners while Ian Boyd rambles on about wingstop and the good ol’ days of 2.0.
Table 8 – Eric doesn’t say much. Sits there enjoying his mustard and rice while having a Kina coffee date in his air pods. In protest, Heebs has decided not to say anything until he is acknowledged by eric. Skrouse just randomly blurts out defenses of eric that no one really initiated and is rewarded a treat every time he does so.
Table 9 – Dirt and BK go back and forth one upping each other on who laid the best dick the previous weekend. Tim sits back and emotes with his face reactions only.
Table 10 – Irush is in ruins over his current climate in south Texas. Mike tells him to man up and explains to him what real hardships are living in Argentina. Soup spends all lunch trying to listen in on table 9’s weekend stories.
8. If there was a fire and you had to sacrifice one table to get out alive, which table would it be?
Table 1, of course. Does there have to be a fire in this scenario, or can I sacrifice them just because? Sorry that Druce and Sap have to get caught in the middle. From another perspective, with 2 out of 3 GMs at Table 10 being Texas residents, they might ask to be surrounded by fire based on the current state of things.Well the hottest table is already table 2 with the Suns and Heat so let’s go with them. None of them are particularly active which makes the decision easier.It would be table 4 because they are the least active shouters. Sorry, fecta, tyler, and ba. I would miss you guys.Like the dudes at this table, but bye bye table 9. Clippers are my biggest western conference hurdle to making the finals again, so let’s go ahead and eliminate them without a single game being played. BK can still trade Bootsy to Dirt in hell so there should be no love lost. 9. Other than your own, if you had to live together in a house for a full year with one of the tables, who would it be?
I was pretty torn between tables 8 and 10 for this question, but I think I’m going to go with table 10. I like everyone at table 8, but I’m sure that Eric would have issues if I kept produce or frozen meat in the house, so we’d bicker a lot over that and I don’t think it’d end well. Heebs would keep asking me to go rock climbing even after being denied 300 times. Skrouse’s tragic addiction to marijuana would surely take a toll on my mental health as I watched him wither and lose everything he ever cared about.On the other hand, I think I’d have a good thing going with table 10. I like Soup and think we’d get along pretty well. Same goes for Mike. He could teach me Spanish and probably some good Argentinian food. Me and irush could go to the gym together (after getting vaccinated obvi).
Going to use process of elimination on this one as well. Can’t choose 1, just said I’d sacrifice 2 so who knows if I make it out alive from that one. 3 I know all 3 of these guys so good option there, that said sometimes spending more than a week with Majic makes me want to end it. Hard pass on living w/vegan fecta and two dudes who I’ve never had a conversation with. 5 would be fine I guess. 6 and 8 would be pretty calm groups right around the same as 5 I think. 7 would be fun with trofie and jhb, then you’ve got Boyd in there to drag down the whole group. 9 is an interesting mix that I don’t think would gel as roommates. 10 is also a unique mix with the DJ, the gym hardo and Soup. Ultimately choosing between 3 and 7 and I think I’m going with 3 as I know we all have common interests and generally meshable personalities. Here, I considered tables 7, 8, 9, and 10 the closest. I think BK would drive me insane so I eliminated 9. Some of eric’s idiosyncrasies would probably be too much to deal with so I am down to table 7 and table 10. I think I’ll go with 10. Soup, irush, and Mike are all good dudes and Mike could spin some jams for us while we party.I was about to pick table 1, but Druce and Bankz are currently going at it. That plus the threat of shitty knives being left out everywhere, that’s enough to make me pass. Table 9 would be awesome but BK is a wildcard. Maybe we could get a two story and fill the bottom floor with water and he could stay to that area of the house. Ultimately there’s only one table where I think I wouldn’t get annoyed by any of the GMs, and that’s table 3. I feel I have a very similar personality to 20s and Pointy from my interactions seems like a great dude. Majic has the outside shot of getting annoying, but since I’m not the commish, he wouldn’t be asking me every day when sim would be, so we should be in the clear there.10. General trivia night at the bar. Which table is walking away the winner?
Table 5. I heard Delap made it on Jeopardy! once, Ank strikes me as a good trivia guy, and Chap's street smarts and knowledge of recreational drugs are unmatched.Between Ank and Delap I think table 5 takes it. Delap was on jeopardy for crying out loud. I am taking table 5 here. Delap the Jeopardy king and ank also brings a vast knowledge of trivia. Chap could help the group out when it comes to gangster movies and hip hop. I think they win easily as long as there aren’t any questions about Hal Holbrook (RIP in peace). Table 8 was the runner up, I think they would also be very strong at trivia night. The obvious choice here is table 5, but I can envision a scenario where ank would sabotage his own team because he isn’t the smartest person on his team. Also, if that team made it to the end it’s entirely possible they would choke it all away on the final answer. I think that leads to a Skrouse, Heebs, Eric victory. 3 guys that seem like they could hold their own in a wide array of general knowledge.11. Which table leads to the first punch being thrown?
Table 7. I think I remember seeing in Shout that Trofie is one of those guys who likes to wrestle when he’s drunk. Then there’s Ian, who nobody doesn’t want to punch.I think 9. Between Dirt and Tim I think they’d to at each other, or maybe 7 with JHB or Trofie going after Boyd, that one might be even more likely. I think it’s definitely table 9. The BK factor is just too strong. Table 1 is a sleeper.After these last few days I don’t know how it’s not table 1. Neither Druce or Bankz individually seem like they would be quick to come to blows, but something about the make up of the chemistry between these two individuals. Sap seems like a no nonsense kind of guy too. I could see him just getting tired of the altercations and either punching someone or stabbing someone with his poop knife.12. You have a sister, and she must marry a GM from a specific table, RNG style. Which table are you picking?
Tables 3, 8, and 10 are all options. Everyone at Table 3 seems like a respectful fellow and I don’t think I’d need to worry about any of them hurting her. Three smart, successful guys at Table 8. Table 10, again, three respectful guys who I get along with well. I think I have to go with Table 8 though. Heebs is rich and Skrouse just got a huge raise, so there’s a ⅔ chance that my sister ends up marrying into wealth and I can take advantage of that.Going with table 8. I know Heebs and Skrouse are both good dads, and eric I’m sure would care for a family with everything they need aside from affection. If it were someone else’s sister *cough 20s cough* I’d pick my table. All dads to seemingly great kids, all married so you know at least 1 woman likes us enough. Well, table 3 is definitely out because we can’t risk that RNG selects me. Table 9 would again be a good pick except I cannot risk that BK is selected. I think I’d have to go with table 1 here. They all are family men and seem like they have their lives under control.Table 10. If anyone is going to be fucking my sister, it’s gonna be me! Just kidding, my top two choices from a table would be Tim and Dirt. I know Dirt is, but Tim also seems like a good dude who would treat his lady with respect. There seems like there would be a drawback to every table, so I think I might leave my sister’s life to the RNG gods of that table and just pray it doesn’t end up on BK. It’s more than what she’d do for me. 13. Which table is pulling the varsity cheerleaders?
Table 9, without question. It’s already been done. I don’t know much about Dirt, but BK could brag about his exploits at army and maybe he’ll even get a uniform of some sort eventually. Women love uniforms. Table 10. You’ve got the foreign DJ and the gym rat. Soup would be happy with even the scraps from that combo. Mike dropping “you ever been to Bs As” while Irush is doing some kettle bell bullshit would have the lunch lady needing to mop under their table.This is definitely table 9. You combine dirt’s charm with Tim’s athletic prowess and dreamy bod and then on top of everything throw in BK’s elite fucking ability and ForHims.com stash and it’s game over. Table 10 would also do well with irush’s bod, Mike’s charm and good looks, and soup’s charisma and smooth talking. Bitches like drama. Table 9 and table 1 are the two obvious choices here. Dirt likes ‘em young so they’ve probably got the JV cheerleaders at their corner of the lunchroom. Those chicks usually put out quicker anyways since they don’t know any better yet. So I guess that leaves the varsity squad at table 1.14. Which table wins a 3 on 3 basketball tournament?
This one is tough, but it might be Table 10 again. Soup’s got pretty good height down low. I’ve seen Mike’s soccer videos and he’s lightning quick. And irush goes to the gym so he can at least run up and down the court. Process of elimination brings me to 6 vs. 10. You’ve got the two tallest guys in the league going at it for the title. Ultimately, I think Soup has more experience actually playing basketball so I’ll go 10.I’m going to go with table 5 here because I know that ank and delap have both been active players very recently. Chap seems young enough and in tune with the urban culture enough to at least not be a total waste as a 3rd. Table 10 probably 2nd. Tables 6 and 7 also would be in contention. That is probably my final 4. In my prime this is an easy choice but that was too long ago, and I’m a broken former shadow of myself. Dirt was a great PG in his day, and Tim is long and athletic, but I don’t know much about Bk’s athletic prowess. It seems like table 6 would have the biggest advantage with 8 foot 11 Odin, but from all accounts he likes to just stand on the 3-point line jacking up shots all day. Other than that, I really don’t know much about anyone else’s game on the court. Delap from what I’ve seen in the past seems to be anin shape individual as well as ank. They’re probably in shape enough to be well above average in these pool of players. And in Chap who could give that Rodman/Oakley type presence, I think we have ourselves a tournament winner at table 5. 15. If you could ban one table from shout for a week who would you choose?
Can I ban all of them? As TMBSL’s resident snowflake and safe space advocate, I think this lunchroom would be a much better place if only I was allowed to participate. I think we have a very entertaining group that participates in shout, so I’d bad table 4 since they don’t participate anyways. Table 9. Sorry to the collateral damage. Table 1 runner up. I don’t mind the drama. Keeps me young so I’m keeping table 1 and table 9 at all costs. Neither GM of table 4 shouts much at all so that’s the easy choice for me. Fuck ‘em. 16. Which table would be the last survivors of a zombie apocalypse?
Table 10 because they’re the only ones with a willing human shield in Bankz. Table 8 is in an unfortunate situation because while Skrouse would sacrifice himself to protect Eric, he’s already at Eric’s table. This one has me wondering who has the largest stockpile of weapons. I knock out 8 immediately unless eric has some inspector gadget like features with machine guns etc. I think 1,3,4,5,6 likely don’t have much if any gun ownership between them so they’re out as well. Simply living in Alabama leads me to Luck and Barnes having a weapon or two between them with Duc being a wild card because Oregon is quite outdoorsy. Trofie may have enough for JHB and Boyd to have 2 each of his. Soup is a native Texan so we know he’s got an arsenal. Irush likes arsenal, but is a Texas transplant, and Mike is used to being resourceful and doing what he needs to do to get by so I’m going to go with table 10. I’m going to go with table 8 here because they seem like they would be pretty resourceful. Eric could survive on rice for months. Table 4 was my second thought because they all are basically dead to the league, anyway so maybe the zombies would leave them alone.I’m old and slow and I hear zombies like the latin flavored meat so we’re probably the first table to go. We have a hard time finding tables 2 and 4, so perhaps the zombies would as well. Tables 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9 all seem to have a GM that they wouldn’t mind sacrificing if it came down to it leading to a longer survivability time. Ultimately the brainpower of Ank and Delap plus Delap probably having the gate code to some Mormon ark tucked away at the base of the Rockies in Salt Lake City leaves them the last table remaining.
