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Post by Odin on Feb 3, 2021 11:44:13 GMT -5
In the past we were able to trade directly with other GMs. This worked for a very long time with no problems. The current system is clunky and slows down the draft considerably, and who wants either of those things? If the fear is of people faking scouting info, well, everyone always sent screenshots and no one is going to go through the required effort to fake that and if they do that GM can just be fired because we don't need anyone like that in the league anyway. If the fear is moving assets for "scouting info" because it's easy, well, people will always find a bullshit way around the rules in place to move assets for whatever reason and that needs to be acknowledged. We're now on hour 13 of a wait for scouting info after 1.1 was traded because eric can't be expected to be here with the software open 24/7. The current system causes far more problems than it "solves".
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Post by IanBoyd on Feb 3, 2021 11:53:36 GMT -5
No change
I constructed my team based on the current convoluted scouting rules so we'd need to wait until at least 3020.
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Post by eric on Feb 3, 2021 12:18:20 GMT -5
In the past we were able to trade directly with other GMs. This worked for a very long time with no problems. The current system is clunky and slows down the draft considerably, and who wants either of those things? If the fear is of people faking scouting info, well, everyone always sent screenshots and no one is going to go through the required effort to fake that and if they do that GM can just be fired because we don't need anyone like that in the league anyway. If the fear is moving assets for "scouting info" because it's easy, well, people will always find a bullshit way around the rules in place to move assets for whatever reason and that needs to be acknowledged. We're now on hour 13 of a wait for scouting info after 1.1 was traded because eric can't be expected to be here with the software open 24/7. The current system causes far more problems than it "solves". per proboards i responded to the proposed exchange of scouting information involving herb "13 hours ago" as such, the system has no bearing on the current wait |
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Post by Odin on Feb 3, 2021 12:19:07 GMT -5
In the past we were able to trade directly with other GMs. This worked for a very long time with no problems. The current system is clunky and slows down the draft considerably, and who wants either of those things? If the fear is of people faking scouting info, well, everyone always sent screenshots and no one is going to go through the required effort to fake that and if they do that GM can just be fired because we don't need anyone like that in the league anyway. If the fear is moving assets for "scouting info" because it's easy, well, people will always find a bullshit way around the rules in place to move assets for whatever reason and that needs to be acknowledged. We're now on hour 13 of a wait for scouting info after 1.1 was traded because eric can't be expected to be here with the software open 24/7. The current system causes far more problems than it "solves". per proboards i responded to the proposed exchange of scouting information involving herb "13 hours ago" as such, the system has no bearing on the current wait that may be, but that doesn't mean the other points i made are irrelevant |
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Post by eric on Feb 3, 2021 12:45:47 GMT -5
per proboards i responded to the proposed exchange of scouting information involving herb "13 hours ago" as such, the system has no bearing on the current wait that may be, but that doesn't mean the other points i made are irrelevant it doesn't, but my feeling is we've discussed them enough in the past without convincing each other. long wait is a new point that i agree would be a big deal if it were a result of the system, but now that we all have all the info i think we can agree it isn't |
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Post by Odin on Feb 3, 2021 12:48:51 GMT -5
that may be, but that doesn't mean the other points i made are irrelevant it doesn't, but my feeling is we've discussed them enough in the past without convincing each other. long wait is a new point that i agree would be a big deal if it were a result of the system, but now that we all have all the info i think we can agree it isn't i frankly just don't understand why this system was changed due to potential hijinks when that hadn't happened throughout the history of scouting. |
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Post by Odin on Feb 3, 2021 23:46:10 GMT -5
at this point the rule is clearly slowing down the draft regardless of why it's happening. let's just change the fucking rule back to what worked for us, without issue, for a long ass time.
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Post by eric on Feb 4, 2021 9:54:46 GMT -5
at this point the rule is clearly slowing down the draft regardless of why it's happening. let's just change the fucking rule back to what worked for us, without issue, for a long ass time. i would have vetoed the 3 scouts for 1k trade if it had been posted publicly too though |
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Post by bankz on Feb 4, 2021 12:14:30 GMT -5
at this point the rule is clearly slowing down the draft regardless of why it's happening. let's just change the fucking rule back to what worked for us, without issue, for a long ass time. i would have vetoed the 3 scouts for 1k trade if it had been posted publicly too though I just don't understand why you would veto any trading of info that isn't outragous in nature. Everyone has different values on assets. If part of the negations they settled on 3 scouts for 1K or 1K per Scout or 6K per scout its part of the dealings. I've seen you post about Ian's offer and that shouldn't impact what they did in a much larger scale. I was in shout last night and said I wouldn't sell off a single scout for less than 6K. Others thought 4-5 was a closer value. None of the numbers is some sort of work around or abuse of the system and by putting the veto down you are saying it was. I think the majority of the league thinks that is a bad judgement. |
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