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Post by skrouse on Feb 2, 2021 10:58:23 GMT -5
I brought this up in shout, I think the Buyouts and Amnesty rules are backwards. I think Buyouts should only be limited by one's cap and Amnesties should be artificially limited by the rules. You can't increase your HC beyond 80 mil, but you can increase your skrouse skratch (TM) to the moon if you invest the time.
Proposal:
1. Remove Buyouts limit and allow Hard Cap to act as a limit
2. Impose an Amnesty limit of 1 Amnesty per every 3 seasons. E.g. If a GM purchases an Amnesty in the 3000 season, they could not purchase another until the 3003 season.
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Post by 20s on Feb 2, 2021 11:08:05 GMT -5
I don’t like being able to buy out more than 1 a season so I voted no.
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Post by 20s on Feb 2, 2021 11:09:22 GMT -5
Also, buyouts end up being cheaper than amnesties anyway. Majic was able to get someone to buyout a large contract for him for 10k, amnesties cost 50k. If we make it where you can do as many buyouts as your cap allows, that will just make them even cheaper.
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Post by Majic on Feb 2, 2021 11:09:57 GMT -5
I don’t like being able to buy out more than 1 a season so I voted no. I honestly dont know that we need to change the buyout rule. To me the bigger issue is not limiting amnesties in some way. If we kept the current buyout rule but also added additional limits to amnesties, would you say yes? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 11:10:34 GMT -5
the counter to this argument is that buyouts are free and amnesties require GMs to give the league content to happen, turning that around will mean less content and make it so the free thing can happen every year.
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Post by 20s on Feb 2, 2021 11:10:42 GMT -5
I don’t like being able to buy out more than 1 a season so I voted no. I honestly dont know that we need to change the buyout rule. To me the bigger issue is not limiting amnesties in some way. If we kept the current buyout rule but also added additional limits to amnesties, would you say yes? Yes. I am for some change, I don’t like the proposal in the OP. |
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Post by Majic on Feb 2, 2021 11:11:20 GMT -5
I brought this up in shout, I think the Buyouts and Amnesty rules are backwards. I think Buyouts should only be limited by one's cap and Amnesties should be artificially limited by the rules. You can't increase your HC beyond 80 mil, but you can increase your skrouse skratch (TM) to the moon if you invest the time.
Proposal:
1. Remove Buyouts limit and allow Hard Cap to act as a limit
2. Impose an Amnesty limit of 1 Amnesty per every 3 seasons. E.g. If a GM purchases an Amnesty in the 3000 season, they could not purchase another until the 3003 season.
I would change the poll and include 2 options. First, the one you suggested above and then the second option to what I suggested to 20s. |
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Post by Trofie on Feb 2, 2021 11:12:02 GMT -5
I buyout per 3 years 1 amnesty per 3 years
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Post by Majic on Feb 2, 2021 11:13:30 GMT -5
I would also like to increase the cost of a buyout to 100k.
50k is essentially 1 podcast or 1-1.5 articles. Cost to amnesty should be ALOT higher.
But I am willing to start with just limiting the number of them.
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Post by eric on Feb 2, 2021 16:01:16 GMT -5
I brought this up in shout, I think the Buyouts and Amnesty rules are backwards. I think Buyouts should only be limited by one's cap and Amnesties should be artificially limited by the rules. You can't increase your HC beyond 80 mil, but you can increase your skrouse skratch (TM) to the moon if you invest the time.
Proposal:
1. Remove Buyouts limit and allow Hard Cap to act as a limit
2. Impose an Amnesty limit of 1 Amnesty per every 3 seasons. E.g. If a GM purchases an Amnesty in the 3000 season, they could not purchase another until the 3003 season.
fwiw my take is that GMs investing the time to get that much currency is a good thing for the league, and more of a good thing than the possibility of mass amnesty that so far has only very rarely happened |
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Post by IanBoyd on Feb 2, 2021 16:02:54 GMT -5
What is the downside of limiting amnesties to once per 3 seasons?
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Post by eric on Feb 2, 2021 16:32:55 GMT -5
What is the downside of limiting amnesties to once per 3 seasons? less opportunity to spend, less incentive for articles and other currency generating activities that are good for the league |
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Post by Soup on Feb 2, 2021 16:33:28 GMT -5
agree with eric here
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Post by bankz on Feb 2, 2021 16:46:32 GMT -5
I see no need to make changes.
I’m also on board with Eric and his reasoning behind it
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Post by Odin on Feb 2, 2021 16:53:48 GMT -5
in 51 seasons of 5.0 we had 42 total amnesties.
once a gm did 3 in one season (me)
twice a gm did 2 in one season (majic, pointy)
those are very tame numbers that indicate people arent throwing out random maxes because they know they can just amnesty. despite them being affordable people still dont want to pay 50k for them. at no point has the amnesty system been abused so i don't expect that to suddenly start happening.
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Post by Majic on Feb 2, 2021 17:01:04 GMT -5
changed my vote to no.
Not worth a change, agreed.
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Post by skrouse on Feb 2, 2021 18:49:28 GMT -5
Glad we had this discussion, sometimes things aren't as they appear on the surface, thanks all.
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