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Post by Odin on Feb 1, 2021 14:31:52 GMT -5
I think scouting should be open after the trade deadline. I think the draft shouldn’t officially start till after resigning but allow the option for slow draft if a GM is inclined to do so. Not sure if that’s our setup but I believe that should be the setup scouting is open sim 8 draft officially starts the day after playoffs. we very rarely didn't have the draft done by when the timer actually started.
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Post by Herby New Year! on Feb 1, 2021 14:36:45 GMT -5
i don't think an in-season timer is a good idea i think extending the draft period from one to two days given how reticent so many returners are to in-season drafting is a good idea. there's absolutely no reason to go longer than that, so we won't. gms are encouraged to send lists the issue with post-timer scouting is inevitably that someone will try to get in touch with me to get their scouts and i won't get back to them for whatever reason, it just creates friction between GM and commissioner (and GM and other GMs) for no reason. alternatives: -20s has suggested some kind of interface that automatically completes the transaction. if someone can build something like that and i can investigate its inner workings that would be great -we have experience now with mass stat reveals in the creation draft, we could expand and adjust that system to rookie drafts Big proponent of stats. Could you make a static league of "will be doing something other than sports" after college players, layer the current draft class in, and sim (reusing the scrubs year over year)? That way most draft eligible players will be in the C or better part of the curve and it's be as obvious who the tremendous scorers/shot blockers/etc are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 14:43:51 GMT -5
i don't think an in-season timer is a good idea i think extending the draft period from one to two days given how reticent so many returners are to in-season drafting is a good idea. there's absolutely no reason to go longer than that, so we won't. gms are encouraged to send lists the issue with post-timer scouting is inevitably that someone will try to get in touch with me to get their scouts and i won't get back to them for whatever reason, it just creates friction between GM and commissioner (and GM and other GMs) for no reason. alternatives: -20s has suggested some kind of interface that automatically completes the transaction. if someone can build something like that and i can investigate its inner workings that would be great -we have experience now with mass stat reveals in the creation draft, we could expand and adjust that system to rookie drafts
i think you could do something with google forms that are password protected but i've never tried it
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Post by Soup on Feb 1, 2021 14:53:22 GMT -5
This was being sold as no one could scout until their pick was up.
I find out that anyone can scout at anytime before the clock starts.
So people are just wanting people to pick so it narrows down their scouting options costing them less money.
Lol fuck that
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Post by Odin on Feb 1, 2021 14:54:52 GMT -5
This was being sold as no one could scout until their pick was up. I find out that anyone can scout at anytime before the clock starts. So people are just wanting people to pick so it narrows down their scouting options costing them less money. Lol fuck that no one ever said you can only scout if you're up
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Post by Soup on Feb 1, 2021 14:56:15 GMT -5
This was being sold as no one could scout until their pick was up. I find out that anyone can scout at anytime before the clock starts. So people are just wanting people to pick so it narrows down their scouting options costing them less money. Lol fuck that no one ever said you can only scout if you're up It was being sold as “no one can scout”.
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Post by skrouse on Feb 1, 2021 14:57:19 GMT -5
After this discussion, I am leaning toward not making any adjustments this season. I say we let things play out under the current rules. If problems arise we can discuss and work towards a solution for next season or beyond.
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Post by bankz on Feb 1, 2021 15:11:17 GMT -5
If changes are to be made this should be made now.
If not keep this system moving forward because it’s not a “you can’t scout” it’s a you want to remove selected players so you can be cheap thing.
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Post by Dirt on Feb 1, 2021 15:11:54 GMT -5
smfh can't wait until everyone not drafting early realizes that we're now going to have to slam a 29 team draft into one day the way the schedule is set up but muh resignings!!! Bitch ass
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Post by bankz on Feb 1, 2021 15:17:55 GMT -5
smfh can't wait until everyone not drafting early realizes that we're now going to have to slam a 29 team draft into one day the way the schedule is set up Most people had no issues with a creation draft taking 16 days. I’m sure extending the draft a day or two won’t be a problem.
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Post by jhb on Feb 1, 2021 15:19:03 GMT -5
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Post by Dirt on Feb 1, 2021 15:19:18 GMT -5
I can't wait to watch you guys cry when I don't pick until end of season comes out
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Post by Soup on Feb 1, 2021 15:22:22 GMT -5
I can't wait to watch you guys cry when I don't pick until end of season comes out Muh scouting
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Post by Odin on Feb 1, 2021 15:26:56 GMT -5
I can't wait to watch you guys cry when I don't pick until end of season comes out you're an infant if you're going to do that out of spite. you're an idiot if you think resigns/retires should impact a 1.1.
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Post by Dirt on Feb 1, 2021 15:35:48 GMT -5
God dam I forgot the great dipshit Odin knows all!
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Post by Odin on Feb 1, 2021 15:39:54 GMT -5
God dam I forgot the great dipshit Odin knows all! of course i don't, but i know how player development works under eric. as does everyone else who was in 5.0, you know, the ones who never waited. immediate impact players are obvious picks you don't need to wait for, everyone else will take years to develop and are also not worth waiting on. but you're welcome to be stubborn and ignorant for the first decade until you realize we were right all along. doesn't bother me as i don't draft.
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Post by Dirt on Feb 1, 2021 15:41:33 GMT -5
It sure seems alot bothers you. Mr. I want to improve the league and dam those GMs that think differently
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Post by Odin on Feb 1, 2021 15:43:01 GMT -5
It sure seems alot bothers you. Mr. I want to improve the league and dam those GMs that think differently your grasp of the english language bothers me a lot more than the damn draft
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Post by bankz on Feb 1, 2021 16:03:55 GMT -5
Dirt made a clear and imho valid case for waiting that I think will also apply to other people not only in this class but others.
This doing it for spite storyline is made up and just ridiculous
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Post by Odin on Feb 1, 2021 16:11:06 GMT -5
Dirt made a clear and imho valid case for waiting that I think will also apply to other people not only in this class but others. This doing it for spite storyline is made up and just ridiculous look i'm not a totally unreasonable person, just mostly unreasonable. if he wants to wait for actual reasons that's fine even if i don't agree with those reasons. i don't like it, but i won't bitch about it anymore.
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Post by bankz on Feb 1, 2021 16:35:27 GMT -5
Dirt made a clear and imho valid case for waiting that I think will also apply to other people not only in this class but others. This doing it for spite storyline is made up and just ridiculous look i'm not a totally unreasonable person, just mostly unreasonable. if he wants to wait for actual reasons that's fine even if i don't agree with those reasons. i don't like it, but i won't bitch about it anymore. He stated them clearly on the pod and at times in shout. I think we can move on from bitching about him and work on a better scouting system
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Post by Druce on Feb 1, 2021 16:47:14 GMT -5
there really isn't a valid case for waiting. there will be a clear "cream of the crop" when the draft is revealed, 1.1 scouts said players, so on and so forth. acting as if the guys who've been doing this for literal irl years are all somehow out of their minds for not taking issue with how the draft has been done is pretty naive
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Post by Odin on Feb 1, 2021 16:56:26 GMT -5
look i'm not a totally unreasonable person, just mostly unreasonable. if he wants to wait for actual reasons that's fine even if i don't agree with those reasons. i don't like it, but i won't bitch about it anymore. He stated them clearly on the pod and at times in shout. I think we can move on from bitching about him and work on a better scouting system i fully support this approach. arguing about it isn't going to accomplish anything.
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Post by Soup on Feb 1, 2021 18:44:22 GMT -5
there really isn't a valid case for waiting. there will be a clear "cream of the crop" when the draft is revealed, 1.1 scouts said players, so on and so forth. acting as if the guys who've been doing this for literal irl years are all somehow out of their minds for not taking issue with how the draft has been done is pretty naive if his only reason to wait is just because he fucking wants to then that's valid and within the rules. Spare me with the rest of the shit. You come off as a douche.
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Post by Druce on Feb 1, 2021 19:41:38 GMT -5
there really isn't a valid case for waiting. there will be a clear "cream of the crop" when the draft is revealed, 1.1 scouts said players, so on and so forth. acting as if the guys who've been doing this for literal irl years are all somehow out of their minds for not taking issue with how the draft has been done is pretty naive if his only reason to wait is just because he fucking wants to then that's valid and within the rules. Spare me with the rest of the shit. You come off as a douche. Lmao. I literally said in shout earlier that it’s within the rules to wait and I don’t particularly care if anyone does so. If you spent a little less time with your lips wrapped around dirts dick you might’ve read it
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Post by Soup on Feb 1, 2021 19:47:32 GMT -5
if his only reason to wait is just because he fucking wants to then that's valid and within the rules. Spare me with the rest of the shit. You come off as a douche. Lmao. I literally said in shout earlier that it’s within the rules to wait and I don’t particularly care if anyone does so. If you spent a little less time with your lips wrapped around dirts dick you might’ve read it I can do two things at once.
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Post by IanBoyd on Feb 1, 2021 20:16:42 GMT -5
huh
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 13:01:00 GMT -5
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Post by Trofie on Feb 4, 2021 13:39:10 GMT -5
I don't like this because its not required . It's not fair for Gm's like Boomslick and BA to be put on a timer when the requirements are that you set a DC and can check in at the end of year for the bids/draft.
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