Spooky Mafia Game Thread - Mafia Wins (3,297 views)

[Trofie]

Oct 29, 2021 16:49:38 GMT -5 20s said:

Bk also made a “dead civ” pm thread with JHB, myself, him and chap last night which was confusing

Jesus

[20s]

I had the same read as bk though about Tim being the mystery role, he was laying it on THICK about how they needed to come forward

Seemed like either an overplayed attempt at a smokescreen to provide cover for himself or begging for someone else to claim it so he could come back and know they were lying.

[20s]

And yeah that was a very boring mafia game for some reason.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 16:51:58 GMT -5 20s said:

I had the same read as bk though about Tim being the mystery role, he was laying it on THICK about how they needed to come forward

Seemed like either an overplayed attempt at a smokescreen to provide cover for himself or begging for someone else to claim it so he could come back and know they were lying.

It was because the vote totals were so close that anyone could've changed at the last minute and ended the game.

I was OK letting the mystery town wait to see if someone else claimed so they could call them out, but once it got to the final hour and nothing had been settled and no one was providing any more arguments, it needed to happen so additional discussion could actually occur.

[Chaps]

Oct 29, 2021 16:48:02 GMT -5 20s said:

Oct 29, 2021 15:48:44 GMT -5 Chaps said:

Idk why you guys are acting like that is so suspicious. BK was going to show up no matter what. He wasn't driving yet.

You can’t talk about the game with someone outside the thread unless you are mafia members. 

so if you were town that was a good way to get admin killed (or just ruin the integrity of the game), if you are mafia you probably shouldn’t verbalize in the thread that you are gonna message someone outside the thread 

So I literally can't say "are you going to be in the mafia thread today?".  How is this any different than just tagging someone near the end of the day...which happened in this game.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:09:36 GMT -5 Chaps said:

Oct 29, 2021 16:48:02 GMT -5 20s said:

You can’t talk about the game with someone outside the thread unless you are mafia members. 

so if you were town that was a good way to get admin killed (or just ruin the integrity of the game), if you are mafia you probably shouldn’t verbalize in the thread that you are gonna message someone outside the thread 

So I literally can't say "are you going to be in the mafia thread today?".  How is this any different than just tagging someone near the end of the day...which happened in this game.

Because it isn't happening on the board.

Off board communication is forbidden except for the mafia PM.

[Trofie]

Knowing what we know now about the mystery role, they should have made something up and came forward since they couldn't be killed

[Yawn of the Dead]

I could have been killed if there was a role blocker

[Chaps]

Ok, I'll make sure next time I only ask if BK is going to be around until a certain specific time, say 10am or 4pm. No reason I picked those specific times...

you can't just ban all outside conversation just because a mafia game is going on

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:16:28 GMT -5 Chaps said:

Ok, I'll make sure next time I only ask if BK is going to be around until a certain specific time, say 10am or 4pm. No reason I picked those specific times...

you can't just ban all outside conversation just because a mafia game is going on

[TinyTimPig]

Next time I'll just text Pointyegg and Delap and ask them if their favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla.

No reason I would be curious about their favorite ice cream flavor.

[Chaps]

Ok if my statement is that dumb should we just ban anyone who plans to driving anywhere during a mafia game? There's a chance someone could contact them not on the message boards so they better not even join the game.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:21:50 GMT -5 Chaps said:

Ok if my statement is that dumb should we just ban anyone who plans to driving anywhere during a mafia game? There's a chance someone could contact them not on the message boards so they better not even join the game.

The schedule is available to everyone. It's on that individual to provide their own alibi.

[TinyTimPig]

And no one gives a shit if you text BK about your next WoW raid. It's texting about mafia specifically so as not to ruin the experience for everyone.

[Chaps]

Tim thats a dumbass arguement, what would two players have to gain by speaking outside of the game. Either they're both town, or one is mafia and it can only hurt them in the game.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:24:08 GMT -5 Chaps said:

Tim thats a dumbass arguement, what would two players have to gain by speaking outside of the game. Either they're both town, or one is mafia and it can only hurt them in the game.

So would you be cool with Trofie texting everyone the results of his night 3 investigation when he was hit by the mafia?

[Chaps]

So he texted everyone instead of making the exact same post in the thread...and nothing is different. Everyone has the exact same information as they did in the actual game.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:36:53 GMT -5 Chaps said:

So he texted everyone instead of making the exact same post in the thread...and nothing is different. Everyone has the exact same information as they did in the actual game.

He can't make the post in the game. He's dead.

[Chaps]

Oh you mean after he died...I mean if he's dead it cheating whether its posted on the board or in a text message. That's an entirely different rule.

[Chaps]

I'll never send a message about mafia again if that rule makes you guys feel better, but I'm just not understanding a scenario where what I did is cheating. If I had broken a different rule I'd understand but this makes no sense to me.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:41:48 GMT -5 Chaps said:

I'll never send a message about mafia again if that rule makes you guys feel better, but I'm just not understanding a scenario where what I did is cheating. If I had broken a different rule I'd understand but this makes no sense to me.

Scenario: the (alive) sheriff texts someone else who is also alive and says "I investigated you and you're clean. You need to come on the board and get a vote in. I'm not going to reveal my investigation though because I don't want people to know my role or your role yet."

Do you see how this causes a problem?

[Chaps]

Oct 29, 2021 17:44:17 GMT -5 TinyTimPig said:

Oct 29, 2021 17:41:48 GMT -5 Chaps said:

I'll never send a message about mafia again if that rule makes you guys feel better, but I'm just not understanding a scenario where what I did is cheating. If I had broken a different rule I'd understand but this makes no sense to me.

If the (alive) sheriff texts someone else who is also alive and says "I investigated you and you're clean. You need to come on the board and get a vote in. I'm not going to reveal my investigation though because I don't want people to know my role or your role yet."

Do you see how this causes a problem?

This could have been a private message on the board as well.  Having a rule about no discord messages doesn't stop this.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:47:12 GMT -5 Chaps said:

Oct 29, 2021 17:44:17 GMT -5 TinyTimPig said:

If the (alive) sheriff texts someone else who is also alive and says "I investigated you and you're clean. You need to come on the board and get a vote in. I'm not going to reveal my investigation though because I don't want people to know my role or your role yet."

Do you see how this causes a problem?

This could have been a private message on the board as well.  Having a rule about no discord messages doesn't stop this.

Do you understand that only the mafia is allowed to exchange private messages about mafia during a game of mafia?

Townspeople exchanging those messages privately via any medium isn't allowed and I provided at least one example of why that is.

[Chaps]

Yes obviously I understand that. But if you don't give a fuck about that rule, and want to cheat, you don't need discord or whatsapp or smoke signals to do it. You can do it right here on the board.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:53:05 GMT -5 Chaps said:

Yes obviously I understand that. But if you don't give a fuck about that rule, and want to cheat, you don't need discord or whatsapp or smoke signals to do it. You can do it right here on the board.

And that, like texting, results in an admin kill if you’re a town member.

And it’d be really easy to cheat in this game. It kind of defeats the purpose though.

[Chaps]

Ok so what you're saying is if I send BK a private message, on the board, that says "What time are you leaving for your camping trip", during a mafia game, that's cheating?

[Trofie]

Run it back. Same teams

[Chaps]

Whatever, like I said I'll never do it again so this discussion is pointless.

[TinyTimPig]

Oct 29, 2021 17:55:51 GMT -5 Chaps said:

Ok so what you're saying is if I send BK a private message, on the board, that says "What time are you leaving for your camping trip", during a mafia game, that's cheating?

Are you doing it to influence the outcome of the game? If so, then yes. Like I said, it’d be really easy to cheat in this game so we do what we can to prevent that, but no matter what it requires some level of honesty among players for it to work.

[Druce]

And here I thought I had exposed bk enough this afternoon before I took a nap and I end up being the vote. Shameful.