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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 26, 2021 12:01:26 GMT -5
You nailed day 1 last game to utterly fuck up day 1 this game... You also told me multiple times that I fucked up day one last game by saving someone who wAsN't EvEn PlAyInG.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 12:01:29 GMT -5
whats the vote totals?
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 12:02:17 GMT -5
Look at this logic... Tim fucked up but I'm going to pile on Tim's double down of his bad play.... geez I'm not going to apologize for understanding how probabilities work. Its possible you choose the least likely scenario and double down on it. But you're mafia so I'm not shocked.
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Post by Chaps on Jan 26, 2021 12:03:59 GMT -5
Just checking in letting you guys know I'm not an idiot, bankz still sus, vote him off so we have a chance at winning.
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 12:05:47 GMT -5
You nailed day 1 last game to utterly fuck up day 1 this game... You also told me multiple times that I fucked up day one last game by saving someone who wAsN't EvEn PlAyInG. I understood the reasoning behind the move. I hated it because I didn't want to play the fucking game. Note to self 100% admin kill myself the next time i'm in a game I didn't want to be in.
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 12:06:18 GMT -5
5- Banks 4- Ank all votes accounted for
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Post by Ankly on Jan 26, 2021 12:06:30 GMT -5
Investigations aren't necessarily done because of actions. There are different ways to pick out an investigation target. And for that same reason, there would be different ways to use the framing power. I don't think Bankz was the best choice for an investigation night 1 given what you are saying. But even still, I think executing Bankz give us the best odds here. Without knowledge of the ID of said investigator the framing power should be used on the most likely Non-Maf player to be investigated given the events of day 1.
If the maf wants to act based on who they think is the PI and who they may investigate, that's a bold strategy with little chance of success. If I was the PI, I would NOT have investigated who I thought was most likely to be framed, I would go almost completely RNG so that the chances of investigating the framed player were at their lowest.
"The Framing Power should be used on the most likely non-Maf player to be investigated" "If the maf wants to act based on who the PI may investigate, that's a bold strategy with little chance of success" Do you not see the disconnect between the 2 sentence here? How can you know the most likely player to be investigated unless you're acting on who the PI may investigate? I think there are 2 major strategies to using the framing role: 1. Frame based on actual actions of the day. Bankz is a good option here, but he's not the only one from day 1. 2. Lock in on someone to frame night after night. This has the benefit of never framing someone who had already been investigated which would be a wasted frame. Do you deny #2 is a possibility? Bankz would be very low on the list of choices for the #2 strategy.
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Post by jhb on Jan 26, 2021 12:06:51 GMT -5
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 12:07:28 GMT -5
Vote Count:
(4) ank - bk, skrouse, dirt, bankz (5) bankz - dachap, jhb, timpig, gbg, ank
Yet to vote:
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Post by 20s on Jan 26, 2021 12:07:35 GMT -5
Vote Count: (3) ank - bk, skrouse, dirt (5) bankz - dachap, jhb, timpig, gbg, ank (1) jhb - bankz Yet to vote: I think this is right unless I missed another skrouse vote change Majority timer started on Bankz.
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 12:08:52 GMT -5
I think I nailed my original three of Ank, JHB, Chap as mafia.
Now I'm looking forward to the end of the game.
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Post by 20s on Jan 26, 2021 12:09:37 GMT -5
Timer will expire in 13 minutes if everything holds.
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 12:09:53 GMT -5
Just checking in letting you guys know I'm not an idiot, bankz still sus, vote him off so we have a chance at winning. JHB and Ank were smart to sit you in the corner and tell you to stay out the way.
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 12:12:55 GMT -5
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Post by Chaps on Jan 26, 2021 12:14:03 GMT -5
Just checking in letting you guys know I'm not an idiot, bankz still sus, vote him off so we have a chance at winning. JHB and Ank were smart to sit you in the corner and tell you to stay out the way.  Lol ok, let's wait and see who starts switching votes now
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Post by skrouse on Jan 26, 2021 12:15:40 GMT -5
Without knowledge of the ID of said investigator the framing power should be used on the most likely Non-Maf player to be investigated given the events of day 1.
If the maf wants to act based on who they think is the PI and who they may investigate, that's a bold strategy with little chance of success. If I was the PI, I would NOT have investigated who I thought was most likely to be framed, I would go almost completely RNG so that the chances of investigating the framed player were at their lowest.
"The Framing Power should be used on the most likely non-Maf player to be investigated" "If the maf wants to act based on who the PI may investigate, that's a bold strategy with little chance of success"Do you not see the disconnect between the 2 sentence here? How can you know the most likely player to be investigated unless you're acting on who the PI may investigate? I think there are 2 major strategies to using the framing role: 1. Frame based on actual actions of the day. Bankz is a good option here, but he's not the only one from day 1. 2. Lock in on someone to frame night after night. This has the benefit of never framing someone who had already been investigated which would be a wasted frame. Do you deny #2 is a possibility? Bankz would be very low on the list of choices for the #2 strategy. Missing part of my quote there big boy, which is sus af because it means you took it out to make me look bad.
Taking an action on based on two guesses yields poor results. The maf would first be guessing WHO THE PI is and then guessing what that PI may do. I think the more likely strategy is that they take an action based on the game as a whole and who they know the townies are.
#2 is a valid choice but I think the lesser likely option of the two based on the games of maf I have played. Framer usually frames the most sus town suspects, as the PI is most likely to investigate them.
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 26, 2021 12:17:15 GMT -5
Are you trying to move the majority timer even quicker? Lol.
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Post by 20s on Jan 26, 2021 12:18:11 GMT -5
5 minutes until timer expires.
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Post by Ankly on Jan 26, 2021 12:18:42 GMT -5
"The Framing Power should be used on the most likely non-Maf player to be investigated" "If the maf wants to act based on who the PI may investigate, that's a bold strategy with little chance of success"Do you not see the disconnect between the 2 sentence here? How can you know the most likely player to be investigated unless you're acting on who the PI may investigate? I think there are 2 major strategies to using the framing role: 1. Frame based on actual actions of the day. Bankz is a good option here, but he's not the only one from day 1. 2. Lock in on someone to frame night after night. This has the benefit of never framing someone who had already been investigated which would be a wasted frame. Do you deny #2 is a possibility? Bankz would be very low on the list of choices for the #2 strategy. Missing part of my quote there big boy, which is sus af because it means you took it out to make me look bad.
Taking an action on based on two guesses yields poor results. The maf would first be guessing WHO THE PI is and then guessing what that PI may do. I think the more likely strategy is that they take an action based on the game as a whole and who they know the townies are.
#2 is a valid choice but I think the lesser likely option of the two based on the games of maf I have played. Framer usually frames the most sus town suspects, as the PI is most likely to investigate them.
Why would the mafia be guessing who the PI is? That has nothing to do with my point. There is only one guess: who will the sheriff eventually investigate?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 12:19:55 GMT -5
imagine not switching your vote from bankz to ank and still claiming town lmfao
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Post by skrouse on Jan 26, 2021 12:23:17 GMT -5
Missing part of my quote there big boy, which is sus af because it means you took it out to make me look bad.
Taking an action on based on two guesses yields poor results. The maf would first be guessing WHO THE PI is and then guessing what that PI may do. I think the more likely strategy is that they take an action based on the game as a whole and who they know the townies are.
#2 is a valid choice but I think the lesser likely option of the two based on the games of maf I have played. Framer usually frames the most sus town suspects, as the PI is most likely to investigate them.
Why would the mafia be guessing who the PI is? That has nothing to do with my point. There is only one guess: who will the sheriff eventually investigate?idk wtf you're talking about dude. I said the maf would most likely frame the person that the sheriff is likely to investigate based on the events of day 1. That was most likely bankz, which jhb also pointed out. You're the one saying that may not necessarily be the case, but then you're now saying it is the #1 most likely option.
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Post by 20s on Jan 26, 2021 12:26:41 GMT -5
Final Vote Count:
(5) bankz - dachap, jhb, timpig, gbg, ank (4) ank - bk, skrouse, dirt, bankz
Day 3 ends with a mangled body found tied to a post, its dick eaten by wolves. The body belongs to bankz, Vanilla Civilian.
PM me your night moves. Night will end at 12:00 PM CT.
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Post by 20s on Jan 26, 2021 12:57:50 GMT -5
The sun rises on Day 4 to a quiet scene, with nary a corpse to be found.
Day 4 will end at 4 PM central unless a majority timer expires earlier.
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Post by Chaps on Jan 26, 2021 12:59:51 GMT -5
Well I gotta say, I'm looking pretty sus.
Don't end the day before I'm done today, it'll be at least 2:40.
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 26, 2021 13:04:18 GMT -5
Well, this is a pleasant surprise. I did not expect that I would be alive today.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 13:04:50 GMT -5
Seems like there is still a dr on our side... whether the doctor protected Tim after pushing off a town member, idk, but I don’t know who else they would have protected.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 13:06:27 GMT -5
Can the doctor heal himself?
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 26, 2021 13:09:43 GMT -5
Can the doctor heal himself? When I was Doctor last game, no.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 13:11:27 GMT -5
rng sure fucking the town giving timpig power roles twice in a role, while both times also relegating bankz to vanilla civ
also can we ank now?
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Post by skrouse on Jan 26, 2021 13:11:57 GMT -5
Well, this is a pleasant surprise. I did not expect that I would be alive today. What did you learn?
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