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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 10:23:54 GMT -5
maybe you want to lay out an actual coherent argument for why you would vote for bankz
i also apologize to everyone for that extremely large multiquote but this guy here lied about reasoning for his votes and i wanted to make sure everyone saw it.
CompuHunches official sus list from highest to lowest sus: 1. ank 2. jhb 3. gbg 4. timpig 5. dirt 6. skrouse 7. bankz 8. dachap
both dachap and bankz have given obvious town vibes. Skrouse doesnt seem like he is mafia but hasnt been super town either. Dirt is basically afk i have no idea what he plays like when he is mafia because I've never seen it. Timpig is uncharacteristically quiet. gbg is making bad arguments (on purpose?). You and ank both being alive at this point with no bodyguard or doctor protections is the best we have to go on until a sheriff reveals themselves
What about DaChap voting off the rip on day 2 and not waiting to actually hear any potential information or waiting to get any sort of read on people day 2 is especially town?
because im so far dachaps ass irl i know his irl schedule and feel like he would've made more time for mafia if he had an interesting role. its the most certain read i have in this game
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 10:28:12 GMT -5
You must have known he was the bg from that one post he made on day 1 talking shit to Bankz. No but generally being totally MIA for a stretch like that is a pretty strong town tell and not at least triggering the majority to give us the option to discuss keeping him or not when 5 people (who we've confirmed at least one was town) were on board was shitty and fairly suspect IMO What did the town have to lose by doing it? The only people who had anything to lose were mafia who couldn't guarantee at least one additional person died if the majority was triggered and ultimately held through the timer. We had enough people online that if he really Convinced us we could have saved him. The problem was that I wouldn’t believe anything he says just to save his skin. And acting like he wasn’t AFK AF in game 1 where he was mafia is flat out denying what actually happened and making up a reason to say he is likely a town role.
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Post by Ankly on Jan 26, 2021 10:30:07 GMT -5
Day 2 basically amounted to a wasted day with the Druce situation, so there is not much to work off of.
Here's the final Day 1 vote count below with known alignments highlighted:
Final Day 1 Vote Count:
(4) trofie - skrouse, timpig, soup, bankz (3) bankz - dachap, jhb, BK (2) druce - gbg, ank (2) No execution - dirt, delap (1) BK - trofie
Did not vote: druce
Did we have a 3-way town OT day 1? That's one avenue of discussion we've got. The only other is whether being unwilling to go along with the no execution majority timer is a mafia tell or not, and I'm not convinced it is.
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 10:30:59 GMT -5
Are we not basically do or die. If we have a town power role alive. Them coming forward with info would be great
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 10:31:30 GMT -5
What about DaChap voting off the rip on day 2 and not waiting to actually hear any potential information or waiting to get any sort of read on people day 2 is especially town?
because im so far dachaps ass irl i know his irl schedule and feel like he would've made more time for mafia if he had an interesting role. its the most certain read i have in this game
So for meta reasons that have nothing to do with his actual participation in the game... Yet you use it as an excuse to throw sus at people that don’t think he is innocent just based on his actual participation in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 10:33:00 GMT -5
because im so far dachaps ass irl i know his irl schedule and feel like he would've made more time for mafia if he had an interesting role. its the most certain read i have in this game
So for meta reasons that have nothing to do with his actual participation in the game... Yet you use it as an excuse to throw sus at people that don’t think he is innocent just based on his actual participation in the game.
at 0 point in the game have i accused anyone of being sus because of how they felt about chap. feel free to quote all my posts
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Post by 20s on Jan 26, 2021 10:34:11 GMT -5
Vote Count:
(3) ank - bk, skrouse, bankz (1) bankz - dachap
Yet to vote: ank, timpig, dirt, gbg, jhb
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Post by Ankly on Jan 26, 2021 10:40:48 GMT -5
Are we not basically do or die. If we have a town power role alive. Them coming forward with info would be great Not quite do or die, but it's close.
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Post by skrouse on Jan 26, 2021 10:43:29 GMT -5
Are we not basically do or die. If we have a town power role alive. Them coming forward with info would be great Not quite do or die, but it's close. 6 v 3 as of now, possible that we have no power civ roles left. If we miss here it's 5 v 3, then 4 v 3 tomorrow.
So I guess I agree, not quite do or die, but the outcome is bleak if we miss today. Looks like we can only really miss once more
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Post by skrouse on Jan 26, 2021 10:50:35 GMT -5
TinyTimPig - you have an opinion? You seem fairly quiet this game
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 26, 2021 10:52:56 GMT -5
Sorry, I just woke up.
Give me a minute to catch up on what happened last night.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 10:52:59 GMT -5
BK, do you it’s possible that the mafia has kept Ank around to use the framer skill on him, and at the same time try to draw out a potential sheriff? Also, I’d like to point out that last game mafia went for Bankz, then Dirt in rounds one and two. So, assuming that Ank and JHB would be targeted early is flawed logic. Could they be, sure, but is it an obvious mafia tell? Absolutely not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 10:54:53 GMT -5
BK, do you it’s possible that the mafia has kept Ank around to use the framer skill on him, and at the same time try to draw out a potential sheriff? Also, I’d like to point out that last game mafia went for Bankz, then Dirt in rounds one and two. So, assuming that Ank and JHB would be targeted early is flawed logic. Could they be, sure, but is it an obvious mafia tell? Absolutely not.
ank was mafia last game
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 10:58:48 GMT -5
BK, do you it’s possible that the mafia has kept Ank around to use the framer skill on him, and at the same time try to draw out a potential sheriff? Also, I’d like to point out that last game mafia went for Bankz, then Dirt in rounds one and two. So, assuming that Ank and JHB would be targeted early is flawed logic. Could they be, sure, but is it an obvious mafia tell? Absolutely not.
ank was mafia last game
JHB wasn’t...
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Post by Dirt on Jan 26, 2021 10:59:46 GMT -5
trust me I'm civ jhb I'm not clever enough to be mafia.
ank
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 10:59:54 GMT -5
so we are both half right and youre trying to paint me as all wrong? noted
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 26, 2021 11:01:25 GMT -5
Ok, I'm all caught up.
I figured I'd be revealing this today and now seems like the appropriate time.
I am the sheriff.
On night one I investigated Bankz and he came back mafia aligned.
On night two, I investigated Skrouse. He is clean.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 11:02:25 GMT -5
so we are both half right and youre trying to paint me as all wrong? noted
No. You’re wrong, and I’m right. I didn’t say that they couldn’t target brainiacs on day one. I said using the logic that they would target them early for sure is flawed logic
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Post by jhb on Jan 26, 2021 11:03:00 GMT -5
The odds Bankz would be framed if he weren't mafia seem high since he was the deciding vote to kill a vanilla civ
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Post by jhb on Jan 26, 2021 11:03:40 GMT -5
so we are both half right and youre trying to paint me as all wrong? noted
No. You’re wrong, and I’m right. I didn’t say that they couldn’t target brainiacs on day one. I said using the logic that they would target them early for sure is flawed logic *like* Also continuing to expressly argue this meta gives the mafia a strategy to exploit you so it's doubly stupid
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Post by skrouse on Jan 26, 2021 11:13:16 GMT -5
Ok, I'm all caught up. I figured I'd be revealing this today and now seems like the appropriate time. I am the sheriff. On night one I investigated Bankz and he came back mafia aligned. On night two, I investigated Skrouse. He is clean.
This is good info. I also agree with JHB that bankz was most likely framed given his vote situation.
If we take us 4 out of the equation that leaves bk, dachap, ank, dirt, gbg. I think that's where we should be voting today.
Unless of course Delap was Sheriff and Tim is eating up the role, which would be a pretty bullet proof strategy for today, not so much tomorrow.
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Post by skrouse on Jan 26, 2021 11:14:09 GMT -5
One more Ank vote gets us to majority, if we want it. Just FYI
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 11:17:41 GMT -5
JHB
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 26, 2021 11:18:18 GMT -5
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 11:19:00 GMT -5
Dirt
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Post by bankz on Jan 26, 2021 11:19:27 GMT -5
Tim why did you investigate me day 1?
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 26, 2021 11:20:23 GMT -5
trust me I'm civ jhb I'm not clever enough to be mafia. ankBecause of this post. You don’t have to be clever to be mafia, you just have to be selected at random...
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 26, 2021 11:20:55 GMT -5
Tim why did you investigate me day 1? Four vote flips, an OT kill, and you're Bankz. Is that enough?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 11:24:49 GMT -5
but if bankz is mafia then that makes me stupid
not possible
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Post by Ankly on Jan 26, 2021 11:25:00 GMT -5
What percentage chance do you guys think Bankz was framed on day 1?
I think Tim probably underestimated the framing possibility, but I'm kind of amazed that Skrouse wants to remove Bankz from consideration entirely. That's very suspicious.
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