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Post by skrouse on Jan 21, 2021 10:18:24 GMT -5
Just to mention, this is why I like games without completely defined role lists. You have nuance and it requires thinking all the way until the final day. Anks gambit would not have been possible with a defined role list. A game with a define role list just becomes rolecall after a few days which is boring as fuck. Maybe for those with power roles and maf, it's less fun if your a vanilla civ in this set up
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Post by 20s on Jan 21, 2021 10:18:26 GMT -5
Go back and look at how poorly ank played day 1 and 2. And then we just let him off the hook. I've been taking laps for a while but I'm not gonna stop anytime soon.
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Post by jhb on Jan 21, 2021 10:19:01 GMT -5
"Ank's gambit" was supposed to involve me dying on day 3. But instead you bootlickers went along with the veneer of authority and killed pointyegg, no questions asked.
There were so many pushes against you and people like Druce who was saying you were mafia pretending to be sheriff the entire time and literally no one gave a shit. It was top quality entertainment for the host.
I thought for sure if we got to the point where ank survived a second night the remaining townsfolk would do the right thing at that point, I just didn't want to come out and say that like skrouse did until he did say that so that someone could turn it around on me If we had killed ank and been wrong it would have been a much muddier situation
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Post by Ankly on Jan 21, 2021 10:21:34 GMT -5
Go back and look at how poorly ank played day 1 and 2. And then we just let him off the hook. I've been taking laps for a while but I'm not gonna stop anytime soon. I was supposed to die day 3 and in the process clearing pointy. But then you guys killed pointy and we had to change gears.
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Post by Ankly on Jan 21, 2021 10:23:33 GMT -5
20s coming out after the doctor died was a major mistake.
If 20s had stayed quiet that day, I would have been found out after surviving that night.
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Post by 20s on Jan 21, 2021 10:23:44 GMT -5
He told on himself here, I noticed it as the real sheriff, and then just moved on and forgot about it. I screwed us so bad pulling the majority off ank on both day 2 and 3. I would argue that the reason my fake claim worked is that the initial vote against me was objectively wrong/questionable. So I was able to argue against it objectively. I told very few lies in this game other than being cop and JHB being mafia. Those were basically the only 2 lies. Everything else was mostly genuine. You played the fake cop thing fine because you defended your actions with rational explanations that made sense. It appealed to my sense of reason and rationality, I am generally not an emotional player so it is why I was all about waiting and not immediately jumping on ank. It ended up fucking us hard. My bad, town. Everything worked out because we only had 1 real sheriff. Would have blown up much quicker if not. Also, I assumed ank most likely only makes the play if he is godfather, not vanilla mafia, so I decided I wasn't going to bother wasting an investigation that I was 95% sure would come back town aligned and not give me any more info than I had previously. My night 1 investigation was where I most seriously considered ank, I was down to him or TimPig, and I explained in the dead town chat why I went TimPig.
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Post by Druce on Jan 21, 2021 10:23:56 GMT -5
im not sure when i'll get over this.
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Post by Soup on Jan 21, 2021 10:24:23 GMT -5
Go back and look at how poorly ank played day 1 and 2. And then we just let him off the hook. I've been taking laps for a while but I'm not gonna stop anytime soon. We?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 10:24:45 GMT -5
Just to mention, this is why I like games without completely defined role lists. You have nuance and it requires thinking all the way until the final day. Anks gambit would not have been possible with a defined role list. A game with a define role list just becomes rolecall after a few days which is boring as fuck. Maybe for those with power roles and maf, it's less fun if your a vanilla civ in this set up you say less fun but what youre trying to say is less easy. i dont see how having to think harder about information in the thread makes it less fun for any role.
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 21, 2021 10:25:11 GMT -5
Go back and look at how poorly ank played day 1 and 2. And then we just let him off the hook. I've been taking laps for a while but I'm not gonna stop anytime soon. We? Your gut was right on, Soup. So much so that you pinpointed one mafia and two power roles in your accusations.
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Post by Druce on Jan 21, 2021 10:25:18 GMT -5
the inactivity thing last game and the beginning of this game was not part of any schtick, fyi, just unfortunate circumstances irl
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Post by 20s on Jan 21, 2021 10:25:55 GMT -5
20s coming out after the doctor died was a major mistake. If 20s had stayed quiet that day, I would have been found out after surviving that night. I made plenty of mistakes, I played this game like shit. However, my thoughts there were that I had a confirmed mafia in my information and I thought I was playing with fire with how long I was going to survive the nights. I didn't want to die without that info being released. IMO, a bigger mistake, was revealing my investigation info before waiting for yours every day.
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Post by Soup on Jan 21, 2021 10:27:58 GMT -5
Your gut was right on, Soup. So much so that you pinpointed one mafia and two power roles in your accusations. you and 20s were chowing down anything daddy ank was putting in your dish. That was the only explanation.
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Post by 20s on Jan 21, 2021 10:28:07 GMT -5
Go back and look at how poorly ank played day 1 and 2. And then we just let him off the hook. I've been taking laps for a while but I'm not gonna stop anytime soon. We? Get your shots in, they are deserved. I've already stated I was the LVP for the town. But bankz and dirt weren't much help, either.
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 21, 2021 10:28:51 GMT -5
Your gut was right on, Soup. So much so that you pinpointed one mafia and two power roles in your accusations. you and 20s were chowing down anything daddy ank was putting in your dish. That was the only explanation. Coming from the guy who was so confident in his accusation that he refused to move off of No Vote to kill the guy he was certain of?
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Post by Soup on Jan 21, 2021 10:29:22 GMT -5
Get your shots in, they are deserved. I've already stated I was the LVP for the town. But bankz and dirt weren't much help, either. why bankz wouldn't come out day 2 and say he was protected by the doctor blows my mind. I pushed for that info to come out but it doesnt seem like anyone wanted any part of that.
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Post by Druce on Jan 21, 2021 10:29:30 GMT -5
i said i would laugh when trofie and ank were the last 2 mafia. i lied. i am crying. i had their roles mixed up, but fuck me if bankz didn't screw us over and over
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Post by Ankly on Jan 21, 2021 10:29:39 GMT -5
I still think approaching things rationally rather than emotionally is pro-town in the long run. But you did get burned this time.
There were a couple posts that were cracking me up though. "Yes, Ank has killed 2 civs so far, but if pointy also turns out to be town, he's outta here!"
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 21, 2021 10:29:42 GMT -5
Yeah, our bodyguard literally never protected someone.
Congrats on that one, mafia.
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Post by Soup on Jan 21, 2021 10:29:53 GMT -5
you and 20s were chowing down anything daddy ank was putting in your dish. That was the only explanation. Coming from the guy who was so confident in his accusation that he refused to move off of No Vote to kill the guy he was certain of? yeah, that's when i checked out of the game.
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Post by Soup on Jan 21, 2021 10:31:04 GMT -5
Yeah, our bodyguard literally never protected someone. Congrats on that one, mafia. some of that is on the game controller though. you gotta let people make night moves and not rush that.
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 21, 2021 10:31:16 GMT -5
Coming from the guy who was so confident in his accusation that he refused to move off of No Vote to kill the guy he was certain of? yeah, that's when i checked out of the game. Ah, the Bankz approach. Now we've confirmed that three of the 10 town didn't care to actually try and win. Soup could've switched to save himself and killed a mafia if he followed his gut, but instead he pouted.
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Post by 20s on Jan 21, 2021 10:31:35 GMT -5
Ankly what was your goal/endgame of switching to Soup in OT on day 2? Just to get rid of soup because he had been targeting you?
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Post by Soup on Jan 21, 2021 10:32:31 GMT -5
yeah, that's when i checked out of the game. Ah, the Bankz approach. Now we've confirmed that three of the 10 town didn't care to actually try and win. Soup could've switched to save himself and killed a mafia if he followed his gut, but instead he pouted. no, i cared, i tried. you fucked this up. you shouldn't be pointing any fingers anywhere.
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Post by 20s on Jan 21, 2021 10:32:54 GMT -5
I still think approaching things rationally rather than emotionally is pro-town in the long run. But you did get burned this time. There were a couple posts that were cracking me up though. "Yes, Ank has killed 2 civs so far, but if pointy also turns out to be town, he's outta here!" I also thought of this Baseketball quote when pointy said that.
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 21, 2021 10:33:13 GMT -5
Yeah, our bodyguard literally never protected someone. Congrats on that one, mafia. some of that is on the game controller though. you gotta let people make night moves and not rush that. Puts the host in a really tough spot. Waits are too long? Bankz quits. Waits are too short? Power role isn't around.
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Post by Soup on Jan 21, 2021 10:34:01 GMT -5
some of that is on the game controller though. you gotta let people make night moves and not rush that. Puts the host in a really tough spot. Waits are too long? Bankz quits. Waits are too short? Power role isn't around. i think we can both agree that 15 minutes isn't the ideal night move time though.
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Post by Ankly on Jan 21, 2021 10:35:03 GMT -5
Yeah, our bodyguard literally never protected someone. Congrats on that one, mafia. I mean he died night 2 and our night 1 hit was blocked by you. This had little to no effect.
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 21, 2021 10:35:41 GMT -5
Ah, the Bankz approach. Now we've confirmed that three of the 10 town didn't care to actually try and win. Soup could've switched to save himself and killed a mafia if he followed his gut, but instead he pouted. no, i cared, i tried. you fucked this up. you shouldn't be pointing any fingers anywhere. You refused to place a vote and just said you "checked out" on the crucial second day of the game. I pointed plenty of fingers at Ank. In hindsight, of course I should've voted for him, but as a power role, I wasn't going to be the one to switch in OT and put a target on my back when I wasn't certain of Ank's alignment.
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 21, 2021 10:37:10 GMT -5
I take some blame for not murdering Ank when I had the chance, but I was thinking that dying there was one of the few ways to give the town information as a vanilla civ. And the possibility of killing a power role outweighed my selfishness of wanting to continue playing.
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