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Post by Soup on Jun 28, 2021 22:58:19 GMT -5
Not to mention the bullshit JR Rider shit you pulled.
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Post by eric on Jun 28, 2021 23:00:28 GMT -5
the celtics didn't drop any player from their roster. they were an expansion team and started with a blank roster if you're arguing we shouldn't count the warriors' record for the celtics' waiver position the celtics get a BETTER waiver slot, not a worse one as majic said nothing is changing for this contraction because we don't do post facto rule changes, but if you really want to make that argument for changes going forward you should be aware that in almost every circumstance it will help the expansion team for obvious reasons We don’t do post facto changes even though this was implemented after the season started? “Contraction waiver order is in reverse order of the standings of the last full season before contraction.” since when the season starts is irrelevant to when contractions occur, it is irrelevant to whether a rule change is pre- or post- facto in this case, the rule change occurred before contraction, hence it is not a post facto rule change |
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Post by 20s on Jun 28, 2021 23:15:56 GMT -5
Not to mention the bullshit JR Rider shit you pulled. This one still deserves an explanation. I don’t have an issue with dump being in the contraction waivers with his teams record from last year, but the Rider/Whitney stuff seemed to go directly against a written and published rule and was never explained at all. |
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Post by Fason on Jun 29, 2021 5:39:12 GMT -5
dump be a gentleman and decline to pick anyone up.
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Post by delap on Jun 29, 2021 7:11:22 GMT -5
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Raymond Felton
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 7:49:09 GMT -5
the celtics didn't drop any player from their roster. they were an expansion team and started with a blank roster if you're arguing we shouldn't count the warriors' record for the celtics' waiver position the celtics get a BETTER waiver slot, not a worse one as majic said nothing is changing for this contraction because we don't do post facto rule changes, but if you really want to make that argument for changes going forward you should be aware that in almost every circumstance it will help the expansion team for obvious reasons We don’t do post facto changes even though this was implemented after the season started? “Contraction waiver order is in reverse order of the standings of the last full season before contraction.” You were definitely in the group of outraged gms that were upset that I set a tanking DC. Eric changed the rule to fix it. Now you hate post facto changes. Lmfao gtfo |
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Post by Soup on Jun 29, 2021 7:50:09 GMT -5
We don’t do post facto changes even though this was implemented after the season started? “Contraction waiver order is in reverse order of the standings of the last full season before contraction.” You were definitely in the group of outraged gms that were upset that I set a tanking DC. Eric changed the rule to fix it. Now you hate post facto changes. Lmfao gtfo point to where i was upset over that. i said i was even going to do it too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 7:52:12 GMT -5
You were definitely in the group of outraged gms that were upset that I set a tanking DC. Eric changed the rule to fix it. Now you hate post facto changes. Lmfao gtfo point to where i was upset over that. i said i was even going to do it too. Ah so you support the rule because it benefitted you. It must be convenient to stir shit in shout where you know people aren't recording. |
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Post by Soup on Jun 29, 2021 7:53:25 GMT -5
point to where i was upset over that. i said i was even going to do it too. Ah so you support the rule because it benefitted you. It must be convenient to stir shit in shout where you know people aren't recording. i said i was going to do it the right way by trading my players. why don't you get your facts straight before you start attempting to attack people. You just look like a fucking idiot most of the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 7:56:44 GMT -5
Ah so you support the rule because it benefitted you. It must be convenient to stir shit in shout where you know people aren't recording. i said i was going to do it the right way by trading my players. why don't you get your facts straight before you start attempting to attack people. You just look like a fucking idiot most of the time. yeah your assertions are facts and mine are wrong got it |
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Post by jhb on Jun 29, 2021 7:59:48 GMT -5
i said i was going to do it the right way by trading my players. why don't you get your facts straight before you start attempting to attack people. You just look like a fucking idiot most of the time. yeah your assertions are facts and mine are wrong got it That is exactly what he said |
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Post by Majic on Jun 29, 2021 8:09:27 GMT -5
as I said, I dont expect eric to change his interpretation of the rule for this situation, that doesnt change my disagreement. And again, I am picking 6th or 7th in contract so its not like I will be in a position to get one of the good players. However, as noted by others, the new rule was put in place during this offseason and thus could be amended.
With that said, the fact is that contraction happened mid season and the team was filled with street Free Agents, obviously thats going to have an impact on their record. Dump already had the ability to get a clean slate and start fresh, which he chose. He shouldnt have the added benefit of also claiming the Warriors record.
I also understand this is a very unique circumstance, very rarely will a true title contending roster be contracted. However, that doesn't change the fact that the Celtics got the benefit if a clean cap, fresh picks and now get gifted one of the 3 best players from a title contender, all for nothing.
Its a pretty simple rule change, in the event of subsequent contraction the new team is not eligible to be placed in contractions based on their record in the contracted year.
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Post by Fason on Jun 29, 2021 8:11:26 GMT -5
Watching this type of nonsense from the sidelines is why I came back.
I say this without taking sides in the debate, carry on.
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Post by jhb on Jun 29, 2021 8:12:12 GMT -5
as I said, I dont expect eric to change his interpretation of the rule for this situation, that doesnt change my disagreement. And again, I am picking 6th or 7th in contract so its not like I will be in a position to get one of the good players. However, as noted by others, the new rule was put in place during this offseason and thus could be amended. With that said, the fact is that contraction happened mid season and the team was filled with street Free Agents, obviously thats going to have an impact on their record. Dump already had the ability to get a clean slate and start fresh, which he chose. He shouldnt have the added benefit of also claiming the Warriors record. I also understand this is a very unique circumstance, very rarely will a true title contending roster be contracted. However, that doesn't change the fact that the Celtics got the benefit if a clean cap, fresh picks and now get gifted one of the 3 best players from a title contender, all for nothing. Its a pretty simple rule change, in the event of subsequent contraction the new team is not eligible to be placed in contractions based on their record in the contracted year. He expanded mid-season, and the Warriors were better before being contracted than after his expansion team started. If anything that hurts his position in the contraction waivers here. |
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Post by jhb on Jun 29, 2021 8:24:36 GMT -5
If Dump had expanded prior to Sim 1 he would be #1 in contraction waivers right now because he would've been stocked with bargain bin FAs for all 120 days of the sim instead of having a quarter season of Oden, Toney, etc. winning games
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Post by Soup on Jun 29, 2021 8:32:53 GMT -5
If Dump had expanded prior to Sim 1 he would be #1 in contraction waivers right now because he would've been stocked with bargain bin FAs for all 120 days of the sim instead of having a quarter season of Oden, Toney, etc. winning games only because eric changed a rule mid season |
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Post by Majic on Jun 29, 2021 9:01:04 GMT -5
as I said, I dont expect eric to change his interpretation of the rule for this situation, that doesnt change my disagreement. And again, I am picking 6th or 7th in contract so its not like I will be in a position to get one of the good players. However, as noted by others, the new rule was put in place during this offseason and thus could be amended. With that said, the fact is that contraction happened mid season and the team was filled with street Free Agents, obviously thats going to have an impact on their record. Dump already had the ability to get a clean slate and start fresh, which he chose. He shouldnt have the added benefit of also claiming the Warriors record. I also understand this is a very unique circumstance, very rarely will a true title contending roster be contracted. However, that doesn't change the fact that the Celtics got the benefit if a clean cap, fresh picks and now get gifted one of the 3 best players from a title contender, all for nothing. Its a pretty simple rule change, in the event of subsequent contraction the new team is not eligible to be placed in contractions based on their record in the contracted year. He expanded mid-season, and the Warriors were better before being contracted than after his expansion team started. If anything that hurts his position in the contraction waivers here. I stated this in the voting thread but I dont like the fact that the team is disbanded midseason and filled with FA. I personally think that team should stay through the end of the season assuming thats its already started. To your statement above though, the Warriors were projected to win 38 games, even if the miss that mark the likely end up above 30 wins. That was a good roster and tearing it down resulted in the deflated wins total, which then benefits Dump with a top 3 option for free. Again, my suggestion is simple. Leave the roster AS IS until contraction takes place or exclude a contracted team from a subsequent season contraction bid. |
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Post by jhb on Jun 29, 2021 9:02:42 GMT -5
That solution is literally formed for the sole purpose of benefitting your contraction waiver order in the current scenario, it’s not an actual solution to any of the other issues that have been raised
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Post by Majic on Jun 29, 2021 9:53:15 GMT -5
That solution is literally formed for the sole purpose of benefitting your contraction waiver order in the current scenario, it’s not an actual solution to any of the other issues that have been raised I dont think this benefits me in any way for this contraction. There are 3-4 players worth drafting and I will have pick 6th or 7th. I am not getting anyone either way, I just stated my opinion based on the current rule. |
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jun 29, 2021 16:12:52 GMT -5
Protect:
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Post by IanBoyd on Jun 29, 2021 17:28:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 17:31:53 GMT -5
protect
semaj christon
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Post by bankz on Jun 29, 2021 17:49:32 GMT -5
Protect...
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Post by dump on Jun 30, 2021 13:14:59 GMT -5
You hate to see people being afraid of Dump of all GMs getting a decent player
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Post by bankz on Jun 30, 2021 15:36:20 GMT -5
You hate to see people being afraid of Dump of all GMs getting a decent player I don't think this has anything to do with you personally. It's more about doing what is fair. Nobody really fears you getting a good player. You are the GM who gave up a top 10 pick for Dougie Buckets and took D3 over Ced |
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Post by bankz on Jun 30, 2021 15:36:55 GMT -5
Sorry, that's mean.
I apologize dump.
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Post by jhb on Jun 30, 2021 15:48:30 GMT -5
Sorry, that's mean. I apologize dump. How are you gonna apologize to a man you already murdered lmao |
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Post by kc on Jul 1, 2021 13:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by Chaps on Jul 1, 2021 14:12:41 GMT -5
Nikola Jokic
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Danny Granger
Scott Burrell
Mike O'Koren
Theodoros Papaloukas
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Post by Sapular on Jul 2, 2021 8:51:46 GMT -5
Ralph Sampson
Brook Lopez
Cenk Akyol
Kevin McHale
Jordan Hamilton
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