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Post by TinyTimPig on Jun 7, 2021 14:50:28 GMT -5
few proposals I have mentioned before but wanted to state again. Is there any support for limiting the amount of scouts? GM gets 3 scouts per pick, an assistance coach would get them 1 more. They couldnt be traded. What about the idea of scouting only while on the clock? This could slow the draft a bit but would likely limit the amount of sharing. I really wouldnt mind the offseason being a tad longer as we are ripping off seasons pretty quickly. just a couple additional ideas that might help Limiting amount of scouts won't actually limit the amount of scouts as people have shown they're more than willing to trade/share them, despite what the rules may say. Scouting only while on the clock is fine too, but I see no reason why it would limit the amount of sharing.
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Post by Majic on Jun 7, 2021 14:52:02 GMT -5
I think it was Majic that suggested keeping both, but putting a cap on the number of scouts a GM could use. Maybe we could adapt that here. A limited number of scouts per team aka "in person workouts", then unlimited scouting so you can get a guy's build post-selection. The issue here is that is does nothing to solve the scout sharing issue that was described. I scout Players A, B, C, D. You scout players E, F, G, H. That info can easily be swapped. 4 is too much If we keep college stats then I personally think 2 is a fair number, I could be persuaded into 3 "scouting tokens". I think the issue right now is peoples ability to get them in mass, 4-6 GMs getting 30-40 scouts. Under this idea the most they could get together would be 12-18, if we do 3 picks per. Even less if we did 2 per, 8-12. Keeping college stats allows us to limit the scouting while also keeping it. Giving someone the chance to see the stats and then decide between 2-3 guys.
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Soup
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Post by Soup on Jun 7, 2021 14:52:10 GMT -5
yeah, i hate the wheel too and joined the league despite that.
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Post by Druce on Jun 7, 2021 14:53:01 GMT -5
yeah, i hate the wheel too and joined the league despite that.
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Post by Majic on Jun 7, 2021 14:54:08 GMT -5
few proposals I have mentioned before but wanted to state again. Is there any support for limiting the amount of scouts? GM gets 3 scouts per pick, an assistance coach would get them 1 more. They couldnt be traded. What about the idea of scouting only while on the clock? This could slow the draft a bit but would likely limit the amount of sharing. I really wouldnt mind the offseason being a tad longer as we are ripping off seasons pretty quickly. just a couple additional ideas that might help Limiting amount of scouts won't actually limit the amount of scouts as people have shown they're more than willing to trade/share them, despite what the rules may say. Scouting only while on the clock is fine too, but I see no reason why it would limit the amount of sharing. I will throw a 3rd idea in to help; Increase the costs significantly. If you did these 3 things I would venture to bet that sharing would be reduced: 1) Scouts cost more - less availability 2) I can only scout while on the clock - sure some colluding could happen but it makes it tougher, and more time sensitive 3) Limit to 2-3 scouts per pick - as detailed in my previous post, even if there is sharing the overall amount of them would be reduced.
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Post by Handsome Pete on Jun 7, 2021 15:03:29 GMT -5
yeah, i hate the wheel too and joined the league despite that. Well I can't help that you guys are wrong lol
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Post by jhb on Jun 7, 2021 22:00:25 GMT -5
I hate Eric and joined despite that
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jun 8, 2021 11:19:58 GMT -5
Limiting amount of scouts won't actually limit the amount of scouts as people have shown they're more than willing to trade/share them, despite what the rules may say. Scouting only while on the clock is fine too, but I see no reason why it would limit the amount of sharing. I will throw a 3rd idea in to help; Increase the costs significantly. If you did these 3 things I would venture to bet that sharing would be reduced: 1) Scouts cost more - less availability 2) I can only scout while on the clock - sure some colluding could happen but it makes it tougher, and more time sensitive 3) Limit to 2-3 scouts per pick - as detailed in my previous post, even if there is sharing the overall amount of them would be reduced. I do appreciate that you suggest making scouting more expensive, which was...not your opinion in 5.0 lol
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Post by Majic on Jun 8, 2021 13:23:40 GMT -5
I will throw a 3rd idea in to help; Increase the costs significantly. If you did these 3 things I would venture to bet that sharing would be reduced: 1) Scouts cost more - less availability 2) I can only scout while on the clock - sure some colluding could happen but it makes it tougher, and more time sensitive 3) Limit to 2-3 scouts per pick - as detailed in my previous post, even if there is sharing the overall amount of them would be reduced. I do appreciate that you suggest making scouting more expensive, which was...not your opinion in 5.0 lol I have evolved Timothy, like a fine wine I have gotten better with age. but yea, I feel differently now with our current reality. Between the scouting groups and college stats I Think the cost should be considerate.
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