318. Clippers - Grizzlies (458 views)

[Dirt]

Clippers send:
05 MIL 2nd rounder 2.3
06 MIL 1st Rounder 1.27
07 PHI 1st Rounder 1.4
08 DAL 1st Rounder 1.4
09 LAC 1st Rounder 1.25

Grizzlies send:
Joshua Smith
Doug Wrenn


Accept

[Druce]

yep

[jhb]

SHEEEEEEESH

[skrouse]

Nice deal for Dirt, IMO. Not bad for Druce though, feel for both Smith and Wrenn you could have gotten a little more though.

[Soup]

clip attack is back, jack

[Druce]

Apr 6, 2021 9:06:40 GMT -5 skrouse said:

Nice deal for Dirt, IMO. Not bad for Druce though, feel for both Smith and Wrenn you could have gotten a little more though.

i'd have thought the same, but there hasn't been a ton of interest in my players outside of wrenn

[Trofie]

[skrouse]

Apr 6, 2021 9:09:31 GMT -5 Druce said:

Apr 6, 2021 9:06:40 GMT -5 skrouse said:

Nice deal for Dirt, IMO. Not bad for Druce though, feel for both Smith and Wrenn you could have gotten a little more though.

i'd have thought the same, but there hasn't been a ton of interest in my players outside of wrenn

True, but it's still early. I actually have been surprised to see not only you but others like jhb make these big moves so quickly. Gotta let that market simmer for a bit IMO.

[Druce]

Apr 6, 2021 9:11:53 GMT -5 skrouse said:

Apr 6, 2021 9:09:31 GMT -5 Druce said:

i'd have thought the same, but there hasn't been a ton of interest in my players outside of wrenn

True, but it's still early. I actually have been surprised to see not only you but others like jhb make these big moves so quickly. Gotta let that market simmer for a bit IMO.

...i've had my players on the block for 2 seasons

[Deleted]

nice trade for both

love this league

[jhb]

Apr 6, 2021 9:12:32 GMT -5 Druce said:

Apr 6, 2021 9:11:53 GMT -5 skrouse said:

True, but it's still early. I actually have been surprised to see not only you but others like jhb make these big moves so quickly. Gotta let that market simmer for a bit IMO.

...i've had my players on the block for 2 seasons

Right...I started shopping these guys at midseason

[Druce]

Apr 6, 2021 9:15:40 GMT -5 jhb said:

Apr 6, 2021 9:12:32 GMT -5 Druce said:

...i've had my players on the block for 2 seasons

Right...I started shopping these guys at midseason

i've felt like i'm trying to squeeze milk out of an almond trying to get any kind of value

[Sapular]

Apr 6, 2021 9:17:14 GMT -5 Druce said:

Apr 6, 2021 9:15:40 GMT -5 jhb said:

Right...I started shopping these guys at midseason

i've felt like i'm trying to squeeze milk out of an almond trying to get any kind of value

but isnt almond milk a thing?

[Majic]

Apr 6, 2021 9:27:42 GMT -5 Sapular said:

Apr 6, 2021 9:17:14 GMT -5 Druce said:

i've felt like i'm trying to squeeze milk out of an almond trying to get any kind of value

but isnt almond milk a thing?

[bankz]

Really like this for the Clippers.

Its a nice return for the Grizzlies.

Its hard to be a seller right now. Those with pick assets aren't the most aggressive GMs. Most are being ultra conservative and we will see how that ultimately plays out. I'm a firm believer of pushing those chips all in when the window is opening.

[20s]

Apr 6, 2021 10:00:36 GMT -5 bankz said:

Really like this for the Clippers.

Its a nice return for the Grizzlies.

Its hard to be a seller right now. Those with pick assets aren't the most aggressive GMs. Most are being ultra conservative and we will see how that ultimately plays out. I'm a firm believer of pushing those chips all in when the window is opening.

Is the window opening right now? Seems like the Bucks and 76ers are setting up shop.

[Dirt]

Apr 6, 2021 10:07:12 GMT -5 20s said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:00:36 GMT -5 bankz said:

Really like this for the Clippers.

Its a nice return for the Grizzlies.

Its hard to be a seller right now. Those with pick assets aren't the most aggressive GMs. Most are being ultra conservative and we will see how that ultimately plays out. I'm a firm believer of pushing those chips all in when the window is opening.

Is the window opening right now? Seems like the Bucks and 76ers are setting up shop.

I still have 1.4 and 1.3 in the next 2 drafts. So my window is starting to.open. 

[Trofie]

[bankz]

Apr 6, 2021 10:07:12 GMT -5 20s said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:00:36 GMT -5 bankz said:

Really like this for the Clippers.

Its a nice return for the Grizzlies.

Its hard to be a seller right now. Those with pick assets aren't the most aggressive GMs. Most are being ultra conservative and we will see how that ultimately plays out. I'm a firm believer of pushing those chips all in when the window is opening.

Is the window opening right now? Seems like the Bucks and 76ers are setting up shop.

I think for Dirt his window is opening and he's being aggressive. 

For others who I wont name they clearly aren't being aggressive and I believe they will just have a team vs having a contender.   That's not a knock on those guys its just that most of those guys are generally new GMs or typically not aggressive in the trade market.  

[Handsome Pete]

Apr 6, 2021 10:25:30 GMT -5 bankz said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:07:12 GMT -5 20s said:

Is the window opening right now? Seems like the Bucks and 76ers are setting up shop.

I think for Dirt his window is opening and he's being aggressive. 

For others who I wont name they clearly aren't being aggressive and I believe they will just have a team vs having a contender.   That's not a knock on those guys its just that most of those guys are generally new GMs or typically not aggressive in the trade market.  

[20s]

Apr 6, 2021 10:25:30 GMT -5 bankz said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:07:12 GMT -5 20s said:

Is the window opening right now? Seems like the Bucks and 76ers are setting up shop.

I think for Dirt his window is opening and he's being aggressive. 

For others who I wont name they clearly aren't being aggressive and I believe they will just have a team vs having a contender.   That's not a knock on those guys its just that most of those guys are generally new GMs or typically not aggressive in the trade market.  

I was speaking to the guys you are calling less aggressive and more conservative that have pick assets.  I don't know if it makes sense for them to push now vs waiting a couple seasons.  I don't know exactly which teams you are speaking of though other than the Heat, Knicks, do the Suns and Stags still have more draft assets?

[bankz]

Apr 6, 2021 10:29:33 GMT -5 20s said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:25:30 GMT -5 bankz said:

I think for Dirt his window is opening and he's being aggressive. 

For others who I wont name they clearly aren't being aggressive and I believe they will just have a team vs having a contender.   That's not a knock on those guys its just that most of those guys are generally new GMs or typically not aggressive in the trade market.  

I was speaking to the guys you are calling less aggressive and more conservative that have pick assets.  I don't know if it makes sense for them to push now vs waiting a couple seasons.  I don't know exactly which teams you are speaking of though other than the Heat, Knicks, do the Suns and Stags still have more draft assets?

I wasn't speaking on the Heat or Knicks.   I just think some teams have an elite talent and could be more aggressive trying to take advantage of that rookie contract like I and others did and it seems like they are more content on just making picks as they come and maybe hitting on a big FA.   I'm not going to call out names directly that isn't fair imho.  Its just my generally feeling that the aggressive guys have maxed out most moves and the guys with ammo aren't as aggressive and thus sellers not really getting what they may want or able to flip assets at all. 

[20s]

Apr 6, 2021 10:33:48 GMT -5 bankz said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:29:33 GMT -5 20s said:

I was speaking to the guys you are calling less aggressive and more conservative that have pick assets.  I don't know if it makes sense for them to push now vs waiting a couple seasons.  I don't know exactly which teams you are speaking of though other than the Heat, Knicks, do the Suns and Stags still have more draft assets?

I wasn't speaking on the Heat or Knicks.   I just think some teams have an elite talent and could be more aggressive trying to take advantage of that rookie contract like I and others did and it seems like they are more content on just making picks as they come and maybe hitting on a big FA.   I'm not going to call out names directly that isn't fair imho.  Its just my generally feeling that the aggressive guys have maxed out most moves and the guys with ammo aren't as aggressive and thus sellers not really getting what they may want or able to flip assets at all. 

Yeah, I don't disagree with your thoughts on the strategy, just questioned the 'while the window is opening' but see you might have meant more for said teams while they have rookie deals, I was thinking you meant the window is opening leaguewide for someone to win a title.

[bankz]

Apr 6, 2021 10:38:08 GMT -5 20s said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:33:48 GMT -5 bankz said:

I wasn't speaking on the Heat or Knicks.   I just think some teams have an elite talent and could be more aggressive trying to take advantage of that rookie contract like I and others did and it seems like they are more content on just making picks as they come and maybe hitting on a big FA.   I'm not going to call out names directly that isn't fair imho.  Its just my generally feeling that the aggressive guys have maxed out most moves and the guys with ammo aren't as aggressive and thus sellers not really getting what they may want or able to flip assets at all. 

Yeah, I don't disagree with your thoughts on the strategy, just questioned the 'while the window is opening' but see you might have meant more for said teams while they have rookie deals, I was thinking you meant the window is opening leaguewide for someone to win a title.

Ahh, gotcha.  Sorry for the confusion.  

[Sapular]

Apr 6, 2021 10:33:48 GMT -5 bankz said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:29:33 GMT -5 20s said:

I was speaking to the guys you are calling less aggressive and more conservative that have pick assets.  I don't know if it makes sense for them to push now vs waiting a couple seasons.  I don't know exactly which teams you are speaking of though other than the Heat, Knicks, do the Suns and Stags still have more draft assets?

I wasn't speaking on the Heat or Knicks.   I just think some teams have an elite talent and could be more aggressive trying to take advantage of that rookie contract like I and others did and it seems like they are more content on just making picks as they come and maybe hitting on a big FA.   I'm not going to call out names directly that isn't fair imho.  Its just my generally feeling that the aggressive guys have maxed out most moves and the guys with ammo aren't as aggressive and thus sellers not really getting what they may want or able to flip assets at all. 

He's talking about me 20's.  I am guess that Bankz feels I should be more aggressive while I have McHale on a rookie contract and trade the little assets I have for a better more established player.  While I understand his point I disagree.  I am in wheel and FA purgatory

[bankz]

Apr 6, 2021 10:49:00 GMT -5 Sapular said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:33:48 GMT -5 bankz said:

I wasn't speaking on the Heat or Knicks.   I just think some teams have an elite talent and could be more aggressive trying to take advantage of that rookie contract like I and others did and it seems like they are more content on just making picks as they come and maybe hitting on a big FA.   I'm not going to call out names directly that isn't fair imho.  Its just my generally feeling that the aggressive guys have maxed out most moves and the guys with ammo aren't as aggressive and thus sellers not really getting what they may want or able to flip assets at all. 

He's talking about me 20's.  I am guess that Bankz feels I should be more aggressive while I have McHale on a rookie contract and trade the little assets I have for a better more established player.  While I understand his point I disagree.  I am in wheel and FA purgatory

Its not you alone.  And I wasn't specifically calling you out.  I don't disagree that cap wise you have some bad deals.  But nothing that can't be worked around imho.  

[Dirt]

Apr 6, 2021 10:49:00 GMT -5 Sapular said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:33:48 GMT -5 bankz said:

I wasn't speaking on the Heat or Knicks.   I just think some teams have an elite talent and could be more aggressive trying to take advantage of that rookie contract like I and others did and it seems like they are more content on just making picks as they come and maybe hitting on a big FA.   I'm not going to call out names directly that isn't fair imho.  Its just my generally feeling that the aggressive guys have maxed out most moves and the guys with ammo aren't as aggressive and thus sellers not really getting what they may want or able to flip assets at all. 

He's talking about me 20's.  I am guess that Bankz feels I should be more aggressive while I have McHale on a rookie contract and trade the little assets I have for a better more established player.  While I understand his point I disagree.  I am in wheel and FA purgatory

I dont think he's talking about you fwiw sap.


I did this deal because I'm worried about the wing position sitting at 1.4 in the majority of my drafts. Also waiting for anks and skrouses 1.1s is a bit risky. I offered just 1x 1.4 and the rest of this package for Wrenn but it wasn't enough. Druce offered me thjs and I think its on par to Maye a few seasons ago. I don't have a top 2 pick so making some moves for a wing was very important to me. My rookie Mike Gbaby can be Granger with a few less rebounds. I have a huge fear the wings at the top of drafts that will fall to me won't be very appealing. 

[jhb]

He's clearly talking about BK

[Herby New Year!]

Apr 6, 2021 10:29:33 GMT -5 20s said:

Apr 6, 2021 10:25:30 GMT -5 bankz said:

I think for Dirt his window is opening and he's being aggressive. 

For others who I wont name they clearly aren't being aggressive and I believe they will just have a team vs having a contender.   That's not a knock on those guys its just that most of those guys are generally new GMs or typically not aggressive in the trade market.  

I was speaking to the guys you are calling less aggressive and more conservative that have pick assets.  I don't know if it makes sense for them to push now vs waiting a couple seasons.  I don't know exactly which teams you are speaking of though other than the Heat, Knicks, do the Suns and Stags still have more draft assets?

Bankz is in his feelings that I told him I have no interest in Riva.

[Herby New Year!]

Apr 6, 2021 11:18:18 GMT -5 jhb said:

He's clearly talking about BK

If there is one GM that won't trade top picks for elite talent, it is BK.

Top picks for above average talent, well that's another story.