Handsome Pete
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Post by Handsome Pete on Aug 31, 2021 12:02:32 GMT -5
With another two teams potentially contracting this year, let's get a definitive path forward here since contraction waivers seems to be pretty unpopular. As I see it, the options are: - Contracted players enter FA at the expense of existing players in the FA pool at the end of the season
- All players from the contracted team(s) are killed. RIP, gone too soon, etc.
- Players from contracted team who were set to hit FA are kept in the FA pool, but players who would have been eligible for contraction waivers (multi-year deals remaining at contraction) are killed.
- Keep things the same
Please vote and discuss and let's be done with this.
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Post by TinyTimPig on Aug 31, 2021 12:03:23 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this.
Voted for FA eligible players saved, everyone else killed
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Post by Majic on Aug 31, 2021 12:06:47 GMT -5
I am strongly against auto killing any players.
I would much rather we move them all to FA and kill off any older FA's that are unlikely to be signed.
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Post by 20s on Aug 31, 2021 12:09:45 GMT -5
I am strongly against auto killing any players. I would much rather we move them all to FA and kill off any older FA's that are unlikely to be signed. The reason to kill them off is to prevent league wide inflation. The same number of good players in a league with 20 human teams instead of 29 is going to look vastly different. The league average player is going to be much better. There will be way more good players for everyone to have in their starting lineups, etc. |
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Post by Odin on Aug 31, 2021 12:12:45 GMT -5
waivers, thanks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 12:14:52 GMT -5
I am strongly against auto killing any players. I would much rather we move them all to FA and kill off any older FA's that are unlikely to be signed. The reason to kill them off is to prevent league wide inflation. The same number of good players in a league with 20 human teams instead of 29 is going to look vastly different. The league average player is going to be much better. There will be way more good players for everyone to have in their starting lineups, etc.
who cares tho
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Post by Majic on Aug 31, 2021 12:15:43 GMT -5
I am strongly against auto killing any players. I would much rather we move them all to FA and kill off any older FA's that are unlikely to be signed. The reason to kill them off is to prevent league wide inflation. The same number of good players in a league with 20 human teams instead of 29 is going to look vastly different. The league average player is going to be much better. There will be way more good players for everyone to have in their starting lineups, etc. I am aware and have no issue with this personally. This would also only be a short term issue as the draft classes will all start to be adjust to account for less GM's. I have no problem with the league getting an infusing of good players being available. |
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Post by Majic on Aug 31, 2021 12:19:32 GMT -5
I will also state, we had this happen in 5.0 in a much bigger contraction situation and it never seemed to cause major issues.
Eventually the league talent leveled off and equaled out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 12:24:09 GMT -5
classic 2.0 gms want to whine about stuff that isnt a problem and has worked for irl years
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Post by TinyTimPig on Aug 31, 2021 13:00:27 GMT -5
I will also state, we had this happen in 5.0 in a much bigger contraction situation and it never seemed to cause major issues. Eventually the league talent leveled off and equaled out. 5.0 teams were pretty inflated IMO. |
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Post by Herby New Year! on Aug 31, 2021 13:04:24 GMT -5
I like the idea of killing off players to avoid player inflation. Seems like the easiest path.
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Post by Majic on Aug 31, 2021 13:16:34 GMT -5
I will also state, we had this happen in 5.0 in a much bigger contraction situation and it never seemed to cause major issues. Eventually the league talent leveled off and equaled out. 5.0 teams were pretty inflated IMO. I just never saw it as a problem, personally speaking. |
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Post by Majic on Aug 31, 2021 13:19:36 GMT -5
I also just dont want to see any scenario where a legendary player is killed off.
Take the Magic for example, I think it would be absolute shit to see Yao Ming killed off at 24 years old. Its not like we will see him back around again, it would have to be a different iteration of the league.
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Post by Fason on Aug 31, 2021 13:22:46 GMT -5
I also just dont want to see any scenario where a legendary player is killed off. Take the Magic for example, I think it would be absolute shit to see Yao Ming killed off at 24 years old. Its not like we will see him back around again, it would have to be a different iteration of the league. They’re all just 1s and 0s. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 13:24:30 GMT -5
I also just dont want to see any scenario where a legendary player is killed off. Take the Magic for example, I think it would be absolute shit to see Yao Ming killed off at 24 years old. Its not like we will see him back around again, it would have to be a different iteration of the league.
This is an underrated comment
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Post by Majic on Aug 31, 2021 13:33:19 GMT -5
Some of the guys that would have been killed off:
Andrey Blatche - 20 years old
Sidney Green - 26 years old
Joe Barry Carroll - 26 years old
Serge Ibaka - 20 years old
Rodney McCray - 27 years old
Darrell Griffith - 26 years old
Isaiah Rider - 24 years old
Dennis Scott - 24 years old
Chris Paul - 27 years old
Kevin Love - 25 years old
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 13:33:53 GMT -5
Ervin Johnson getting deleted would hurt his HOF chances and Yao getting deleted is ridiculous. there are better solutions than this, just put them on a roboteam to play out their contract and enter fa naturally for instance is way better than this bullshit
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Post by TinyTimPig on Aug 31, 2021 13:36:22 GMT -5
Some of the guys that would have been killed off: Andrey Blatche - 20 years old Sidney Green - 26 years old Joe Barry Carroll - 26 years old Serge Ibaka - 20 years old Rodney McCray - 27 years old Darrell Griffith - 26 years old Isaiah Rider - 24 years old Dennis Scott - 24 years old Chris Paul - 27 years old Kevin Love - 25 years old A true who's who of NBA legends. |
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Post by Handsome Pete on Aug 31, 2021 13:36:42 GMT -5
Some of the guys that would have been killed off: Andrey Blatche - 20 years old Sidney Green - 26 years old Chris Paul - 27 years old Kevin Love - 25 years old None of these guys would've been killed off, their teams weren't contracted |
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Post by Chaps on Aug 31, 2021 13:37:47 GMT -5
Make them all FAs or keep the system the same.
Those first 3 options are stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 13:38:07 GMT -5
this poll is rigged to favor a stupid fucking idea by putting even worse ideas around it thanks for ruining the league pete
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Post by Majic on Aug 31, 2021 13:40:03 GMT -5
Some of the guys that would have been killed off: Andrey Blatche - 20 years old Sidney Green - 26 years old Chris Paul - 27 years old Kevin Love - 25 years old None of these guys would've been killed off, their teams weren't contracted that was circumstantial and is far less likely to happen at this point. We dont have a list of GMs ready to take over. I was proving a point that had this rule been in place the entire time we would be losing some really good players. Sure, some of the names aren't exactly ITL legends but most of the guys on that list are sim HOF worthy, or close. I am not sure why killing them is the immediate response. Leave it the same or throw them into FA for everyone to bid on. |
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Post by 20s on Aug 31, 2021 13:54:11 GMT -5
None of these guys would've been killed off, their teams weren't contracted I am not sure why killing them is the immediate response. Leave it the same or throw them into FA for everyone to bid on. Because we don’t want to decrease the number of teams and keep the number of elite players the same. I already told you. You can disagree with the idea, but pretending like you don’t know why when you were already told is weird. |
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Post by Handsome Pete on Aug 31, 2021 13:58:14 GMT -5
this poll is rigged to favor a stupid fucking idea by putting even worse ideas around it thanks for ruining the league pete You're welcome |
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Post by Herby New Year! on Aug 31, 2021 14:03:15 GMT -5
this poll is rigged to favor a stupid fucking idea by putting even worse ideas around it thanks for ruining the league pete You're welcome Southern gentleman right here. Those are the Ps and Qs ya momma taught you to mind. |
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Post by Herby New Year! on Aug 31, 2021 14:09:17 GMT -5
Removing players from contracted teams avoids inflating the player pool and reducing the value of existing contracts.
On the off chance that more GMs come to their senses and this is the way we go, I would add that if a replacement GM decides to contract a team and start fresh (aka the "a la Fais'on!"), we should put the players into the FA pool since we aren't concentrating the player pool.
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Post by eric on Aug 31, 2021 16:59:47 GMT -5
I am strongly against auto killing any players. I would much rather we move them all to FA and kill off any older FA's that are unlikely to be signed. The reason to kill them off is to prevent league wide inflation. The same number of good players in a league with 20 human teams instead of 29 is going to look vastly different. The league average player is going to be much better. There will be way more good players for everyone to have in their starting lineups, etc. if this is the goal then why would them being under contract change anything though |
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Post by Odin on Aug 31, 2021 18:22:39 GMT -5
talent is relative. inflation doesnt exist here.
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Post by 20s on Aug 31, 2021 18:40:46 GMT -5
The reason to kill them off is to prevent league wide inflation. The same number of good players in a league with 20 human teams instead of 29 is going to look vastly different. The league average player is going to be much better. There will be way more good players for everyone to have in their starting lineups, etc. if this is the goal then why would them being under contract change anything though It doesn’t; I don’t know why that became a suggestion other than a bit of an olive branch to split the difference. Or maybe the thought was to not weaken the expected FA class? Idk, that part wasn’t my suggestion but I voted for it because it was the change option that was winning and I want change. |
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Post by Yawn of the Dead on Sept 1, 2021 4:27:45 GMT -5
i think it benefits me to have waivers. so i will vote for that
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