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Post by bankz on Jan 25, 2021 21:09:12 GMT -5
My feeling was that trofie was a vanilla civ because he lack of fight when he was on the block. He also gave out a trio so imho he was ok with dying. No clue on my read on Druce. I’m just pissed that he’s inactive for a third straight game. Could he be mafia? Sure. Could he be power civ? Sure. Could he be vanilla Civ? Sure. So I went with my gut and voted out who I thought would be less painful result for the town Are you saying you are something more than a vanilla civ if killing someone you thought was a vanilla civ is less painful for the town? No. My less painful comment came down to Druce vs Trofie. It had nothing to do with me.
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Post by Ankly on Jan 25, 2021 21:10:05 GMT -5
At the same time, I don't want to have to worry about this every cycle. No need to go to extraordinary measures to keep an inactive player in the game. The big problem was we had this issue with druce last time and then later on in the game he showed up and was actively an asset to the town. Its frustrating for sure and I don’t know if this is the right way to proceed but I think there’s much bigger downside to a kill, admin kill, then really bad night. I think there is merit to having Druce die here probably via Admin kill. It would at least be a bit revealing with regards to the day 1 vote.
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Post by Soup on Jan 25, 2021 21:10:42 GMT -5
we really can't afford to lose another town member at this point. sucks that this is the hand we're dealt.
no execution
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 21:11:34 GMT -5
at this point i feel like keeping druce alive is good for the town because if we lose 3 thats incredibly bad
however if we do keep him alive we are literally making it so in the future the mafia can just be afk for multiple days in a row and the town will keep them alive, it would be the #1 mafia strategy
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Post by 20s on Jan 25, 2021 21:12:24 GMT -5
Updated Vote Count:
(4) no execution - ank, jhb, skrouse, timpig (1) bankz - dachap (1) druce - soup (1) ank - BK
Yet to vote: gbg, bankz, druce, dirt
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Post by 20s on Jan 25, 2021 21:13:50 GMT -5
Updated Vote Count:
(5) no execution - ank, jhb, skrouse, timpig, soup (1) bankz - dachap (1) ank - BK
Yet to vote: gbg, bankz, druce, dirt
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Post by Ankly on Jan 25, 2021 21:14:31 GMT -5
I'm not convinced of using the majority timer here. My preferred outcome is we still leave the door open for Druce to be admin killed if he no-shows once again.
But we don't vote out anyone else and we position the vote so that if Druce shows up before the deadline, he can be saved.
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Post by jhb on Jan 25, 2021 21:17:23 GMT -5
I'm not convinced of using the majority timer here. My preferred outcome is we still leave the door open for Druce to be admin killed if he no-shows once again. But we don't vote out anyone else and we position the vote so that if Druce shows up before the deadline, he can be saved. The way to do that would be activate majority in the next 8 minutes and then pull out of it if he no shows
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Post by bankz on Jan 25, 2021 21:18:08 GMT -5
Ank
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Post by Ankly on Jan 25, 2021 21:19:10 GMT -5
I'm not convinced of using the majority timer here. My preferred outcome is we still leave the door open for Druce to be admin killed if he no-shows once again. But we don't vote out anyone else and we position the vote so that if Druce shows up before the deadline, he can be saved. The way to do that would be activate majority in the next 8 minutes and then pull out of it if he no shows Ok this is good. JHB is a majority expert now!
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Post by Soup on Jan 25, 2021 21:20:00 GMT -5
ank
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Post by TinyTimPig on Jan 25, 2021 21:20:33 GMT -5
Someone needs to agree to move to no execution in ~7 minutes for this to work then.
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Post by Soup on Jan 25, 2021 21:21:27 GMT -5
Someone needs to agree to move to no execution in ~7 minutes for this to work then. i thought that was the plan before ank came in here fighting against the very thing he suggested.
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Post by Ankly on Jan 25, 2021 21:23:38 GMT -5
Someone needs to agree to move to no execution in ~7 minutes for this to work then. i thought that was the plan before ank came in here fighting against the very thing he suggested. The question to be answered is: Do we want Druce to make it to day 3 if he no-shows tonight? I was arguing against just straight up voting Druce out in case he shows up near the end of the round.
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Post by Soup on Jan 25, 2021 21:24:19 GMT -5
i thought that was the plan before ank came in here fighting against the very thing he suggested. The question to be answered is: Do we want Druce to make it to day 3 if he no-shows tonight? I was arguing against just straight up voting Druce out in case he shows up near the end of the round. you realize that's 36 minutes from now, right?
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Post by jhb on Jan 25, 2021 21:25:39 GMT -5
The question to be answered is: Do we want Druce to make it to day 3 if he no-shows tonight? I was arguing against just straight up voting Druce out in case he shows up near the end of the round. you realize that's 36 minutes from now, right? Yeah so we’d force a majority within the next 4 minutes and then break it later if he no shows
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Post by bankz on Jan 25, 2021 21:26:04 GMT -5
Why do we want to reward inactivity with Druce?
Is just on the off chance he’s a power role?
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 25, 2021 21:26:07 GMT -5
i thought that was the plan before ank came in here fighting against the very thing he suggested. The question to be answered is: Do we want Druce to make it to day 3 if he no-shows tonight? I was arguing against just straight up voting Druce out in case he shows up near the end of the round. I'm team get rid of him; so we don't have to potentially go through this same shit every day period. Also, dirt, please get a vote in.
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Post by Soup on Jan 25, 2021 21:26:26 GMT -5
no execution
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Post by Ankly on Jan 25, 2021 21:26:27 GMT -5
The question to be answered is: Do we want Druce to make it to day 3 if he no-shows tonight? I was arguing against just straight up voting Druce out in case he shows up near the end of the round. you realize that's 36 minutes from now, right? Yes. I guess I don't understand what you want to happen here. We can't be held hostage because Druce isn't showing up. At some point he can just die.
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Post by Soup on Jan 25, 2021 21:26:48 GMT -5
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Post by Ankly on Jan 25, 2021 21:27:01 GMT -5
you realize that's 36 minutes from now, right? Yes. I guess I don't understand what you want to happen here. We can't be held hostage because Druce isn't showing up. At some point he can just die. But I do want to give him until 9pm to show up.
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Post by jhb on Jan 25, 2021 21:27:25 GMT -5
The question to be answered is: Do we want Druce to make it to day 3 if he no-shows tonight? I was arguing against just straight up voting Druce out in case he shows up near the end of the round. I'm team get rid of him; so we don't have to potentially go through this same shit every day period. Also, dirt, please get a vote in. That’s fine but we shouldn’t compound the issue for the town and kill him and potentially another townsman
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Post by jhb on Jan 25, 2021 21:28:00 GMT -5
The question to be answered is: Do we want Druce to make it to day 3 if he no-shows tonight? I was arguing against just straight up voting Druce out in case he shows up near the end of the round. I'm team get rid of him; so we don't have to potentially go through this same shit every day period. Also, dirt, please get a vote in. You know you haven’t voted right
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Post by Soup on Jan 25, 2021 21:28:12 GMT -5
you realize that's 36 minutes from now, right? Yes. I guess I don't understand what you want to happen here. We can't be held hostage because Druce isn't showing up. At some point he can just die. I want the same thing. Just not to make ourselves unneedlessly wait more time and then have to decide to do something else last minute.
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Post by jhb on Jan 25, 2021 21:28:37 GMT -5
Why do we want to reward inactivity with Druce? Is just on the off chance he’s a power role? What’s the reward? We’re gonna let him die if he no shows
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Post by gbgalla24 on Jan 25, 2021 21:29:04 GMT -5
I'm team get rid of him; so we don't have to potentially go through this same shit every day period. Also, dirt, please get a vote in. You know you haven’t voted right Yes... But I'm actively posting; so I'm less concerned that I won't remember to get a vote in.
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Post by Ankly on Jan 25, 2021 21:30:15 GMT -5
You know you haven’t voted right Yes... But I'm actively posting; so I'm less concerned that I won't remember to get a vote in. you can give us majority though
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Post by bankz on Jan 25, 2021 21:30:58 GMT -5
Why do we want to reward inactivity with Druce? Is just on the off chance he’s a power role? What’s the reward? We’re gonna let him die if he no shows End the what if? And move focus from taking about an inactive all period to actually putting pressure on others. We have wasted an entire day talking about Druce and getting nothing else done
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Post by jhb on Jan 25, 2021 21:31:28 GMT -5
Well it’s too late now.
May be worth noting that GBG, bankz, and to some extent chap, dirt, and BK (who weren’t as active) used their voting there to ensure at least one person was killed today
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