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Post by skrouse on May 11, 2021 11:42:08 GMT -5
Magic TradeORL '09 1st (1.11) Warriors TradeByron Scott wardunn
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Post by wardunn on May 11, 2021 11:45:04 GMT -5
accept
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Post by 20s on May 11, 2021 12:10:16 GMT -5
Oh snap
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Post by 20s on May 11, 2021 12:16:03 GMT -5
I like the return for ward
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Post by jhb on May 11, 2021 12:57:22 GMT -5
I think this is a solid trade for both. Scott is among the top PGs in the league after the obvious CP3 and Papaloukous tier.
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Post by 20s on May 11, 2021 13:02:15 GMT -5
I think this is a solid trade for both. Scott is among the top PGs in the league after the obvious CP3 and Papaloukous tier. There is a big group that is pretty similar to me after that top tier so not sure how valuable being one of many in that group is. Neitzel seems similar to Scott and was available while getting paid 40k to take him, much less giving up 1.11. Sampson is available for what seems like less. Larry Drew was available for cheaper. |
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Post by TinyTimPig on May 11, 2021 13:03:47 GMT -5
Seems like Scott had fallen out of favor in the league pretty quick after a solid rookie season. His value saw a bit of a climb again this year and Ward was able to capitalize.
I think Golden State wins this one.
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Post by skrouse on May 12, 2021 8:45:20 GMT -5
I think this is a solid trade for both. Scott is among the top PGs in the league after the obvious CP3 and Papaloukous tier. There is a big group that is pretty similar to me after that top tier so not sure how valuable being one of many in that group is. Neitzel seems similar to Scott and was available while getting paid 40k to take him, much less giving up 1.11. Sampson is available for what seems like less. Larry Drew was available for cheaper. This is true, but simply put, Scott>> Neitzel. I wanted the best PG I could acquire with at a reasonable price. Neitzel was a better value but just wasn't good enough IMO. Scott is clearly a top 10 guy at his position. |
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Post by 20s on May 12, 2021 9:22:50 GMT -5
There is a big group that is pretty similar to me after that top tier so not sure how valuable being one of many in that group is. Neitzel seems similar to Scott and was available while getting paid 40k to take him, much less giving up 1.11. Sampson is available for what seems like less. Larry Drew was available for cheaper. This is true, but simply put, Scott>> Neitzel. I wanted the best PG I could acquire with at a reasonable price. Neitzel was a better value but just wasn't good enough IMO. Scott is clearly a top 10 guy at his position. You are free to your opinion, but I don't really agree with that. So I am just going to make the case for my boy a bit. Career:Byron Scott* 17.1 3.8 9.2 1.1 0.2 1.7 .469 .809 .333 1.050 5.391 .145
Drew Neitzel* 11.8 3.3 9.9 1.0 0.2 1.7 .476 .824 .362 1.087 5.889 .150Win Shares:
| Season | Neitzel | Scott | | 3005 | 7.5 (11th) | 9.6 (5th) | | 3004 | 9.1 (5th) | 6.0 (19th) | | 3003 | 8.6 (6th) | 4.5 (22nd SG) | | 3002 | 8.6 (10th) | 5.4 (17th) | | 3001 | 5.3 (17th) | 10.5 (7th) |
Neitzel 25 Scott 27 |
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Post by skrouse on May 12, 2021 9:49:13 GMT -5
This is true, but simply put, Scott>> Neitzel. I wanted the best PG I could acquire with at a reasonable price. Neitzel was a better value but just wasn't good enough IMO. Scott is clearly a top 10 guy at his position. You are free to your opinion, but I don't really agree with that. So I am just going to make the case for my boy a bit. Career:Byron Scott* 17.1 3.8 9.2 1.1 0.2 1.7 .469 .809 .333 1.050 5.391 .145
Drew Neitzel* 11.8 3.3 9.9 1.0 0.2 1.7 .476 .824 .362 1.087 5.889 .150Win Shares:
| Season | Neitzel | Scott | | 3005 | 7.5 (11th) | 9.6 (5th) | | 3004 | 9.1 (5th) | 6.0 (19th) | | 3003 | 8.6 (6th) | 4.5 (22nd SG) | | 3002 | 8.6 (10th) | 5.4 (17th) | | 3001 | 5.3 (17th) | 10.5 (7th) |
Neitzel 25 Scott 27 I did say they were close, but based on recent performances (i.e. last year) Scott was better with regards to scoring, rebounding, and efficiency. When I make deals for players I weigh the recent numbers much more heavily than career numbers. And even your W/S show that last year Scott as #5 for PGs while Neitzel was at #11.
Team Name Yr Pos G M P R A S B T FG% FT% 3P% P/TSA PER A/TO
Warriors Byron Scott 5 PG 78 35.1 14.6 3.9 10.7 0.9 0.3 1.5 0.477 0.854 0.303 1.107 17.2 7.133333333
Cougars Drew Neitzel 6 PG 82 31.3 12.8 3.1 10.6 0.8 0.3 1.6 0.452 0.854 0.391 1.068 15.2 6.625
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